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Lord of the Rings DVD with original nice looking subtitles?

I enjoyed the look of the original subtitles in The Lord of the Rings that the cinema showed for the elvish parts and locations etc. But every DVD release i have seen uses some plain low res subtitles (low bitmap image?) instead of the original. Here is an image of the original proper subtitle: elvish.org/gwaith/movieb/ichair.jpg

It seems these got removed and replaced with some generic low res subtitle later. Looks just like if you choose to use full english subtitles.

Is it possible to buy a release that has the original proper subs? The DVDs I own are all region 2, a trilogy box from 2015, and the 3 original DVD's from 2002, 2003, and 2004. Don't know if this have anything to do with it.
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I enjoyed the look of the original subtitles in The Lord of the Rings that the cinema showed for the elvish parts and locations etc. But every DVD release i have seen uses some plain low res subtitles (low bitmap image?) instead of the original. Here is an image of the original proper subtitle: elvish.org/gwaith/movieb/ichair.jpg

It seems these got removed and replaced with some generic low res subtitle later. Looks just like if you choose to use full english subtitles.

Is it possible to buy a release that has the original proper subs? The DVDs I own are all region 2, a trilogy box from 2015, and the 3 original DVD's from 2002, 2003, and 2004. Don't know if this have anything to do with it.
Oh man I can't imagine watching this on DVD. The BD set is dirt cheap...

Sorry, don't know about the subs.
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Yeah I don't know anything about DVD but I'm 80% sure the blu-ray had the theatrical subs (don't have my copy anymore).

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I enjoyed the look of the original subtitles in The Lord of the Rings that the cinema showed for the elvish parts and locations etc. But every DVD release i have seen uses some plain low res subtitles (low bitmap image?) instead of the original. Here is an image of the original proper subtitle: elvish.org/gwaith/movieb/ichair.jpg

It seems these got removed and replaced with some generic low res subtitle later. Looks just like if you choose to use full english subtitles.

Is it possible to buy a release that has the original proper subs? The DVDs I own are all region 2, a trilogy box from 2015, and the 3 original DVD's from 2002, 2003, and 2004. Don't know if this have anything to do with it.
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Text on DVD Video has to use the same resolution as as the image itself. The letters have to large and blocky to be legible.

Blu-ray, being higher resolution, allows better rendering of the text.

(One could argue that it was a design error to use graphic overlay subtitles on both DVD and Blu-ray, and that text subtitles would allow more flexibility in rendering text on modern displays, but that is the way it has always been done on commercial discs. You have to worry about font issues if you use text data rather than graphic overlays).

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Blu-ray allows for text subtitles and there were a few rare discs that had them. The problem with letting the player render text is that it can lead to wild inconsistencies even if they all claim to follow the "standard". Just imagine every player doing fonts, colors, language, sizes, placement, word wrapping differently. Even our PCs often screw up text handling especially when multiple languages are involved.



When you store subtitles as graphics you can guarantee they will look exactly the same on every player.

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