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post #31 of 112 Old 11-25-2018, 09:28 PM
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Great review, as usual, Ralph. After reading I went out and got a great deal on the UHD for the Black Friday weekend sale. Looking forward to viewing this with the wife.

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It turns out most of the film was shot on 35mm film and the skydive sequence was done with a RED as was the end helicopter sequence. Darker, heavier and dirtier sounds like film to me.

Some reading you may find interesting..
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Thanks for the link...a very interesting read!
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I watched the 4K Digital HDR version on iTunes through my Apple TV 4K. Did anyone notice during some dark scenes at the beginning the blacks would "flash" and crush for a couple of seconds? It only happened during a few specific scenes in the movie, and only happened during dark low lit scenes. Not sure if it is unique to the iTunes 4K transfer or not, or maybe its my hardware. Anyways, just wondering if anyone else noticed it at all.

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It switches. There are really only two sequences where it does. One in the first act and one in the finale. Otherwise it remains at 2.40:1.


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I have the same masking system as you only in the 120"....
I was wondering what you " and others" do in these situations with aspect changes during movies?

Do you not mask... if you know ahead of time?
Just ignore it and ride it out like it didn't happen?
Or do you have a way to automatically adjust on the fly?

I've always wondered what others are doing...
Thanks in advance.
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I have the same masking system as you only in the 120"....
I was wondering what you " and others" do in these situations with aspect changes during movies?

Do you not mask... if you know ahead of time?
Just ignore it and ride it out like it didn't happen?
Or do you have a way to automatically adjust on the fly?

I've always wondered what others are doing...
Thanks in advance.
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I don't mask in cases like these.


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I've done their disc+digital thing a few times and I've always received the full retail package i.e. a UHD, a BD and a digital copy.
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I just ordered the "4K 6 Movie Collection" from Amazon and it won't be arriving until December 12th (even though the release date is December 4th).
I just pre-ordered it today, and it said it will ship on release day. Have a talk with customer service and see if your ship date can be moved up.
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I just pre-ordered it today, and it said it will ship on release day. Have a talk with customer service and see if your ship date can be moved up.
Update: Mine changed to Dec. 12th I think they are trying to cover themselves in the Holiday package onslaught (they might arrive a little earlier).
It's disappointing, to say the least, and not typical service for Amazon Prime customers. But for that price I won't put up too much of a complaint.
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I have the same masking system as you only in the 120"....
I was wondering what you " and others" do in these situations with aspect changes during movies?

Do you not mask... if you know ahead of time?
Just ignore it and ride it out like it didn't happen?
Or do you have a way to automatically adjust on the fly?

I've always wondered what others are doing...
Thanks in advance.
Scope screen and an anamorphic lens. You don't even notice the AR changes...thankfully.
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I can’t wait to pick this up! Nice review Ralph. Gunna get the UHD pack even tho my dedicated theater has a 1080p projector; upgrading soon to 4K.
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Best in the series for sure. Can't wait to pick it up. Likely my last 4K movie purchase of the year.

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I found the UHD PQ average at best, especially for such a high profile release. Somehow it's just not sharp enough for me and the HDR is barely noticeable.
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I had NOT read Mr. Archer's review but other "experts" in the field have mirrored his analysis. Here is an excerpt from DoBlu.com's review:

"The finale, a dazzling helicopter battle amid a mountainous area, is presented at the full IMAX ratio with all the clarity and sharpness expected of a scene this grand. No other part of Mission: Impossible – Fallout looks this good or this sharp. The difference is remarkable, especially as the scene cuts to the 35mm, 2.35:1 on-foot shots. Texture on rocks and long views of the region exhibit ludicrously perfect definition, using the full breadth of 4K’s capability.

"Everything else looks like no other Mission: Impossible before. New cinematographer Rob Hardy leaves his mark. His style is… well, it’s style. Much of Fallout uses a prominent, thick grain structure. Paramount’s encode doesn’t struggle in any capacity. It holds, processing some coarse images.

"Black levels will frequently avoid true black. Some crush is invasive too. Softness reigns over sharpness, choosing to dilute fine detail and texture. Close-ups inconsistently convey facial definition. Establishing location shots show clarity if not pinpoint resolution. All of this fails to reach the laudable heights of previous Mission: Impossible outings on Blu-ray, yet establishes a visual look that defines Fallout. It’s darker, heavier, and dirtier."


I am still a bit hopeful though, for I often agree with Ralph's score. Time will tell!
Well, I just hope it's not as bad as TDK, which I think is about the best looking and also worst looking UHD movie I've seen so far.
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This is all making me REALLY wish they did a 3D blu-ray version, as I assumed the UHD version would be top-tier quality. I didn't see it in 3D but apparently it had some of the best 3D ever. To go through the trouble of converting it, making such a hoopla about it being the first Mission Impossible in 3D, and then to not even release an overseas 3D version is a sad sign of the times for 3D.
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Well, I just hope it's not as bad as TDK, which I think is about the best looking and also worst looking UHD movie I've seen so far.
I assume you're speaking of the post-processing effects (i.e. halos) in TDK. I doubt that you will encounter that in MI:F; rather you will experience a heavy grain structure that "some" people can't stand. Myself, I love a good "film look" that grain affords you, as long as it doesn't get too heavy and turn "noisy."

Other reviews are coming in that are more promising for MI:F, mirroring Ralph's review. Here is a link to Hi-Def Digest's review of the 1080p Blu-ray where they give it a 4.5 out of 5 rating. Blu-ray.com also gave it (the UHD release) 4.5 out of 5 and said the UHD release definitely improves on clarity and definition from its 1080p counterpart.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/620...lefallout.html
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I assume you're speaking of the post-processing effects (i.e. halos) in TDK. I doubt that you will encounter that in MI:F; rather you will experience a heavy grain structure that "some" people can't stand. Myself, I love a good "film look" that grain affords you, as long as it doesn't get too heavy and turn "noisy."

Other reviews are coming in that are more promising for MI:F, mirroring Ralph's review. Here is a link to Hi-Def Digest's review of the 1080p Blu-ray where they give it a 4.5 out of 5 rating. Blu-ray.com also gave it (the UHD release) 4.5 out of 5 and said the UHD release definitely improves on clarity and definition from its 1080p counterpart.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/620...lefallout.html
I think the non-IMAX sequences of TDK on UHD look horrible all around. Soft, weak contrast level, muddy blacks, etc. Could be that I only feel that way because of the switch from the IMAX sequences, which are about the best image I've seen on the format.
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I found the UHD PQ average at best, especially for such a high profile release. Somehow it's just not sharp enough for me and the HDR is barely noticeable.

how did you view it ? UHD disc or Vudu ?
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I think the non-IMAX sequences of TDK on UHD look horrible all around. Soft, weak contrast level, muddy blacks, etc. Could be that I only feel that way because of the switch from the IMAX sequences, which are about the best image I've seen on the format.
It looked fine on my OLED and the 2:35:1 scenes are a huge improvement over the original Blu-ray which suffered from aliasing, EE and edge halos.

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It looked fine on my OLED and the 2:35:1 scenes are a huge improvement over the original Blu-ray which suffered from aliasing, EE and edge halos.

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how did you view it ? UHD disc or Vudu ?
UHD on a 110" screen with JVC projector.
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The IMAX scenes was probably the best I have ever seen
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Totally agree. Those IMAX scenes were the best I have ever scene to date on this format. I wish all scenes in all movies could look that sharp!
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I just pre-ordered it today, and it said it will ship on release day. Have a talk with customer service and see if your ship date can be moved up.
Update: Mine changed to Dec. 12th I think they are trying to cover themselves in the Holiday package onslaught (they might arrive a little earlier).
And I just found out the date has changed to Dec. 7th.
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Ugh, was gonna pass on this but hard not to give it a spin with this review and some of these comments. Just never really liked the MI series much as a whole (but for whatever reason love pt3)

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My MI 6 Movie Collection was rescheduled for December 12th but yesterday Amazon emailed me and it's coming TODAY!
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I looked forward to this one after seeing a rave review of its theater release, and of course Ralph's review.

I don't have much to add to the A/V descriptions.

As a movie, there was almost too much action. Watching it was tiring. (In a good way.) Overall, I'd highly recommend it. The experience of the movie is improved if you've seen the fifth MI film (Rogue Nation).

I'd like to propose a moratorium on action movies where the villain's atomic bombs are disarmed at what is literally the last second. Are we watching a semi-serious movie, or Galaxy Quest? Some clichés can use a rest.

It's odd how things were made to appear. Henry Cavill looked like a giant. According to IMDB, he's only 6' 1". Simon Pegg was played as a small man, although he's 5' 10" tall. Cruise is 5' 7".

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That was one of the first things I did when I purchased my Sony 940D in the summer of 2016, along with other so-called "enhancements" that result in undesired anomalies.

My MI 6 Movie Collection came an hour ago and I will be slipping it into my Philips 4K player within two hours. I'll be back "while the credits roll" to give my impressions.

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The "credits are rolling" and I'm here to tell you I was perfectly satisfied with the movie, the PQ, and last, but not least, the AQ (one of the best Dolby Atmos mixes I've heard this year).

Regarding the PQ, there were definitely quite a few SOFT SHOTS (with a very gritty look), especially during night time scenes and low-lit interior scenes, but these took place mainly in the first third of the film. Once the movie shifted to Paris CLARITY reigned supreme (in ALL daytime, outdoor scenes), with mesmerizing DETAILS and TEXTURE in city streets, buildings, clothing, and most notably, in facial features. Of course the highlights were the IMAX scenes where we were treated to UHD in all its glory! I guess the three locations for the IMAX scenes (the skydiving, the helicopter chase and the fight on the mountain) were in Abu Dhabi, New Zealand, and Norway. I LOVED them, but the desert scenes on land (supposedly in Kashmir), filmed in the 2.35:1 Aspect Ratio, were also quite breathtaking!

I will also add that I wasn't a big fan of the "lens flares" throughout the film. I kept thinking, "J. J. Abrams must have had a hand in this!"
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