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Been hearing a lot of buzz about this. I'll most likely do a blind purchase on it.

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This looks like the France release being resold. It is a lot cheaper to buy it direct. Details about this release are in the RPO 3D thread.

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Good point....the French site shows back in stock and it comes out to $35, shipped. Too bad this set isn't available elsewhere, too; however, with the supposed benefit of the 3D, it seems worth it.

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** It should be noted that the DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio soundtrack is the default audio option. Listening to the Dolby Atmos mix requires entering the audio set up menu and manually selecting it.**
Still don't know why Warner insists on adding a DTS-MA 5.1 track. It's a waste of both space and bandwidth. Literally.
Someone measured out the Atmos track vs. the DTS and not only does the Atmos use less bandwith and less space on disc (by nearly a gigabyte) - it does so with 7.1 channels and Atmos objects! No other company does this. There are some Sony discs with both but in those cases it's the original mix - the Atmos is a remix.

Atmos is designed to play from 2.0 to 5.1 to 7.1 to Atmos, there is no need for a DTS-MA 5.1 track. Not to mention some displays won't even take a DTS signal unless converted to PCM. The hiddent AC-3 track takes care of it in Atmos' case.
There is no reason for it to be on disc and the default track at that.

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Atmos is designed to play from 2.0 to 5.1 to 7.1 to Atmos, there is no need for a DTS-MA 5.1 track. ...
There is no reason for it to be on disc and the default track at that.
Except that DTS-MA generally sounds better than Dolby TrueHD to many people.

I agree that it should not be the default when an Atmos track is present. But, for those of us without an Atmos system, even though the Atmos track will fold down to match the system, a great number of us will still select the DTS-MA track.

There's a reason DTS was quickly becoming the standard audio track on Blu-Rays and DVDs: It. Sounds. Better.

There's a reason Dolby Atmos is quickly becoming the de facto standard on UHDs: It was released first and marketed better.

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Except that DTS-MA generally sounds better than Dolby TrueHD to many people.
To who? Deaf people? Lossless is lossless. LOUDER does not mean better.
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I agree that it should not be the default when an Atmos track is present. But, for those of us without an Atmos system, even though the Atmos track will fold down to match the system, a great number of us will still select the DTS-MA track.

There's a reason DTS was quickly becoming the standard audio track on Blu-Rays and DVDs: It. Sounds. Better.
It. Does. Not.
It was standard because it was quicker and easier to encode and integrated into the authoring packages the studios used. TrueHD used to require its own authoring package that was incompatible.
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Marketing has nothing to do with it. On top of performing better and more efficiently (as I said, a 7.1 + Atmos track takes up less bandwith and space on disc) It's easier to author, play back, and encode. When Dolby presented their object-based system DTS had nothing (they're always a follower, NEVER an innovator) so they bought SRS and bolted their system onto DTS-MA, which doesn't work very well. Dolby even had the Atmos-enabled speakers and DD+ playback at launch. They did their homework and then some.

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For those looking for the 3D version, you're better off buying it from Amazon.co.uk. It's 20 pounds on the site plus shipping, but that's way less than buying it on the USA site.
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Movie not a patch on the book - but the book was really good, so the movie despite being a lite version of the book is still quite good. I saw it at the cinema and recently in my HT, in a 7.2.4 system. Best use of atmos on a disc other than the official Dolby demo disc in my experience (20 or so atmos discs in my UHD collection).

If you're a sci-fi fan then it's a worthy addition imho.
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If you have the equipment then the 3D version is definitely worth a look. At some point when HDR has run its course, and it will, the manufactures of video equipment will revisit 3D (probably glassless 3D) and we'll see a resurgence. There's just something about 3D when shown on the right equipment that's hard to beat.
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Got my 4k uhd steelbook in yesterday. I must say it truly is an audio and visual treat.
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Watching this one again tonight. I really enjoyed it
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Torn between the 3D or 4K UHD versions of this film. Trying to avoid getting both, but I will if I need to. I’ve been looking forward to this film for a very long time. Has anyone seen both in the theaters? If so, any preference?


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I'm picking this up first thing tomorrow morning in anticipation of boys' movie night. I'm getting the 4K version, but if it's a movie that I really like, I may pick up the 3D version as well (my DLP PJ does an amazing job with 3D).
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Picked up the Target Exclusive version (additional bonus features on a DVD) today. When I played it on my Oppo-203 the Atmos audio kicked in by default. Based on a quick look, the Dolby Vision image is a big winner.
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To who? Deaf people? Lossless is lossless. LOUDER does not mean better.

It. Does. Not.
It was standard because it was quicker and easier to encode and integrated into the authoring packages the studios used. TrueHD used to require its own authoring package that was incompatible.

Marketing has nothing to do with it. On top of performing better and more efficiently (as I said, a 7.1 + Atmos track takes up less bandwith and space on disc) It's easier to author, play back, and encode. When Dolby presented their object-based system DTS had nothing (they're always a follower, NEVER an innovator) so they bought SRS and bolted their system onto DTS-MA, which doesn't work very well. Dolby even had the Atmos-enabled speakers and DD+ playback at launch. They did their homework and then some.
Uncompressed or not, there are encoders and decoders involved. Plus Atmos has been known to not fold down objects from the heights to the base layer on some discs.

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Uncompressed or not, there are encoders and decoders involved. Plus Atmos has been known to not fold down objects from the heights to the base layer on some discs.
Except Dolby TrueHD (and Atmos) doesn't "fold down". It expands up. Starts as a 2-channel to 5.1 channel to 7.1 channel to 7.1 + objects.
7.1 channel versions even have the option of "swapping out" the sides for optimized surrounds minus the back channel in 5.1 setups so there is actually 9.1 channels encoded.
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Just watched this, grabbed as a RedBox rental. Will probably end up buying this one. The audio was great, very enveloping in 7.1. Ralph, you’ll be glad to know there was zero bottoming out during the scene in chapter 11 with the PB13. Just complete (and kinda scary) room pressurization (having the PC Ultra behind me doesn’t hurt either) that was just awesome. Had a lot of fun with this one.
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I just watched this tonight. What a fun ride! The film didn't make full use of the height channels, but it was a pretty amazing sound mix IMHO. There were numerous scenes where my subs were able to flex their muscles and one extended scene near the end when I started to get a bit scared...for my house. I will definitely watch this again and may even end up getting the 3D version. If you like 80's music, you will be even more stoked.
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Just got a notice from Target saying the 3d Blu-ray was delayed till August 14. Don't know what gives?

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OMG, A 3d release with no Atmos track Warner? Wich moron made this dumb, dumb call at Warner? . Very, very frustrating this...…
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Just watched this, grabbed as a RedBox rental. Will probably end up buying this one. The audio was great, very enveloping in 7.1. Ralph, you’ll be glad to know there was zero bottoming out during the scene in chapter 11 with the PB13. Just complete (and kinda scary) room pressurization (having the PC Ultra behind me doesn’t hurt either) that was just awesome. Had a lot of fun with this one.
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I just watched this tonight. What a fun ride! The film didn't make full use of the height channels, but it was a pretty amazing sound mix IMHO. There were numerous scenes where my subs were able to flex their muscles and one extended scene near the end when I started to get a bit scared...for my house. I will definitely watch this again and may even end up getting the 3D version. If you like 80's music, you will be even more stoked.
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Movie not a patch on the book - but the book was really good, so the movie despite being a lite version of the book is still quite good. I saw it at the cinema and recently in my HT, in a 7.2.4 system. Best use of atmos on a disc other than the official Dolby demo disc in my experience (20 or so atmos discs in my UHD collection).

If you're a sci-fi fan then it's a worthy addition imho.
The book was just fantastic. I read the last chapter a few times, a real tear jerker.

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Couldn't get into this one but it had great visuals. Would have made for a great 3D experience for sure.

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Agreed. Completely ridiculous.
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Atmos tracks on 3d bluray releases are few and far between. Could probably count on two hands (or less) releases with this magical combo


I guess the studios think we could only have one or the other:
- UHD (hdr10 or DV) AND Atmos
- 3D and 5.1/7.1 audio


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I turned the lights way down in my living room last night and watched Ready Player One on my 65" C7 OLED. The Dolby Vision image is absolute aces (I'll also give HDR10 a look to see if there are any discernible differences). The real world scenes are appropriately grungy but once in the Oasis, the screen lights up. I notched my color up from 50 to 55 and the hot colors really jumped. The digital image was, of course, smoother than the film image but that's expected. Nevertheless the Oasis scenes were still very detailed. The Atmos audio was very immersive. This time I did have to manually select Atmos. This is a release that you can show off your AV system with.
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As a fan of the book and most of the source material used maybe I'm too critical of this, but I dunno. Didn't love it, didn't hate it. Fun to look at on a lot of scenes with some cool cameos thrown in, but the rest just seemed hit or miss with me with main story elements seeming rushed. Fine with the challenge changes for the movies, but IMO, part of the book magic was actually finding the challenge gates that could be hiding anywhere in the vast world of the Oasis.
Sure I'll watch it a couple more times with friends this weekend and maybe things will grow on me, but so far it's not the movie magic I wanted out of it.

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Thanks RP for your review, I'm ecstatic that you made me purchase the 4K disk. I had already d/l and watched it via iTunes, but the 4K Disk takes it to the next level both visually (4K) and acoustically (Dolby Atmos). I think this and Bladerunner 2049 are my go to reference disks now. The sound engineers are getting better and better with the Atmos mixes. I love watching this movie when the wife isn't home and I can make my ears bleed...After all, isn't that why we're in this hobby.

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Thanks RP for your review, I'm ecstatic that you made me purchase the 4K disk. I had already d/l and watched it via iTunes, but the 4K Disk takes it to the next level both visually (4K) and acoustically (Dolby Atmos). I think this and Bladerunner 2049 are my go to reference disks now. The sound engineers are getting better and better with the Atmos mixes. I love watching this movie when the wife isn't home and I can make my ears bleed...After all, isn't that why we're in this hobby.

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