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Hostiles Ultra HD Blu-ray Review



Ralph Potts reviews this western drama that follows a U.S. Cavalry officer who must escort a Cheyenne war chief and his family back to their home in Montana in 1892.



The Review at a Glance:
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Film:

Extras:

Audio/UHD Video total rating:
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86



Details:

Studio and Year: Lionsgate - 2017
MPAA Rating: R
Feature running time: 134 minutes
Genre: Drama/Western

Disc Format: BD-66
Encoding: HEVC
Video Aspect: 2.40:1
Resolution: 2160p/24

Audio Format(s): English DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio
Subtitles: English SDH, Spanish
Starring: Christian Bale, Rosamund Pike, Wes Studi, Jesse Plemons, Adam Beach, Rory Cochrane, Ben Foster
Written & Directed by: Scott Cooper
Music by:
Based on the Manuscript by: Donald E. Stewart
Region Code: A

Release Date: April 24, 2018


"We Are All…Hostiles"


My Take:

Set in 1892, Hostiles tells the story of a legendary Army captain (Bale) who, after stern resistance, reluctantly agrees to escort a dying Cheyenne war chief (Studi) and his family back to tribal lands. Making the harrowing and perilous journey from Fort Berringer, an isolated Army outpost in New Mexico, to the grasslands of Montana, the former rivals encounter a young widow (Pike), whose family was murdered on the plains. Together, they must join forces to overcome the punishing landscape, hostile Comanche, and ruthless outliers that they encounter along the way.

I consider myself to be a fan of period films, especially those taking place in the old west. Hostiles interested me due to its subject matter and the casting of Christian Bale, Wes Studi, and Rosamund Pike. Firstly, I loved the film’s cinematography. The backdrop of the story is every bit as essential to its telling and it’s captured beautifully. The narrative has a gritty classic western feel, that is shaped as much by its unflinching brutality as its resonating drama, which speaks to the human condition during desperate times, that called for desperate measures.

The characters aren’t diverse in design, but it’s the evolution of their relationships over the course of the film that proves engaging. Not all of what transpires flows smoothly within the construct of the plotline or thematic tone, and the film runs about 20 minutes too long, but I found the spirit of Hostiles to be compelling. The action is quite good, and doesn’t feel disingenuous, given the time frame and references featured in the story. I found the performances to be very good, especially by the three core actors, Bale, Pike, and Studi. Hostiles isn’t classic western fare, but it most definitely rooted in the genre, and delivers a rewarding film experience that should appeal to discerning fans.


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The rating is for strong violence and language.


AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100/EXCELLENT = 83-91/GOOD = 74-82/AVERAGE = 65-73/BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


Audio: 92
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UHD Presentation: 80
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Hostiles comes to Ultra HD Blu-ray from Lionsgate Home Entertainment featuring 2160pHEVC encoded video and lossless DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio sound.

For its presentation in Ultra HD, Hostiles was shot on film and rendered from a 4K DI. It's important to note that the ultimate goal for any release on home video is to present a film in the highest possible quality based upon its original elements. A film like Hostiles has an aesthetic that features many low-lit environs, natural lighting, and chromatic schemes that won't result in the type of glossy, tack-like sharpness typically associated with films shot using digital cameras. This isn't a problem and shouldn't be seen as such.

This can be a dark film, both tonally and visually, with many of its scenes taking place in low lit environs with natural or candescent lighting. Looking at the film's opening moments the improvement in depth and definition compared to the 1080p rendering was noticeable. I could detect the finer details present in the exterior shots and the close-ups as well. The dusk/dawn exteriors of the rustic landscapes didn’t offer a marked improvement in dimension but sharpness was stable. The color range in the film is limited, but the rendering of primary colors, looked a tad punchier here than on the Blu-ray.

I didn’t find that HDR played a significant role in this presentation. The video’s dynamic range was stable throughout, with no especially noteworthy use of bright highlights. Again, I didn’t see this as a shortcoming as I believe it coincided with the film’s visual design. I did find that black levels were on the aggressive side, which caused a bit of black crush. Shadow detail didn’t suffer egregiously. As for which version to take home, I think that either gets the job done, but feel free to let your wallet be your guide.

The 5.1 channel soundtrack is quite good and makes active use of the entire system. This is a solid lossless soundtrack that features noteworthy dynamic range and punchy bass that augment the impact associated with the films action-based elements and music. The mix facilitates seamless integration of the front and rear channels, creating a stable and proportioned listening experience. The surround channels are actively engaged with a blend of discretely placed sounds and spatial ambience. Dialog it reproduced with aplomb as I never had any trouble with prioritization even during the film's active segments.


For those not familiar with the details regarding Ultra HD Blu-ray you can refer to my article that includes some pertinent data on the subject. Here is the link:

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Video: 90
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Hostiles comes to Blu-ray Disc from Lionsgate Home Entertainment featuring 1080p AVC encoded video.

By design this film doesn’t boast vibrant colors are eye popping visuals but the encoding appears solid. Colors have a muted level of saturation and those used are rarely bright which give the perception of a limited palette. Overall, they are naturally rendered and appear to fall within the visual range intended. Fleshtones have complexional distinction, but the lighting used can sometimes leave them appearing flat and lacking in texture. Blacks are respectable with above average delineation. Shadow detail is quite good which enhances visual perception during the many scenes shot in limited lighting. Resolution is adequate so that varying degrees of detail can be seen in close ups but the video isn’t razor sharp or dimensionally strong. It isn’t a bright film which when coupled along with the reserved chromatic scheme gives it a somewhat dull finish. This seems to coincide with the creative decisions of the filmmakers and results in stable imagery that lacks the eye-popping definition that some may expect from a newer film.


Bonus Features:
  • Disc 1: Hostiles Ultra HD Blu-ray
  • Disc 2: Hostiles Blu-ray
  • A Journey to the Soul: The Making of Hostiles (3 Part Mocumentary)
    • Provenance
    • Removing the Binds
    • Don’t Look Back
  • Digital Copy

Final Thoughts:

Based on the manuscript by Donald E. Stewart, and written/directed by Scott Cooper, Hostiles is an engaging, and gritty western drama that benefits from solid performances, and enriching cinematography. It comes to Blu-ray in this Ultra HD Blu-ray Combo Pack from Lionsgate Home Entertainment featuring faithful video quality, excellent lossless sound and a fair supplemental offering. Hostiles is time well spent and deserves a place near the top of your Blu-ray rental queue.




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... Hi Ralph, a big Thank You for reviewing this film ! After three days and no comments/quotes could be because this movie is not about Action Figures like Batman or the Ninja Turtles or something along that line ! I could not agree with you more about being a fan of Period Films like the Old West ... I'll just add: even more so of the films based on or touching on some true event. While the story line may not be based on something that did actually happen good acting and beautiful cinematography can more then make up for a weak story. I have pre-ordered this film and after reading some love it/hate it reviews and then your review I am looking forward even more now to watch this film in UHD ! Thanks again !
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Old west!

Yeah I can't wait to watch this on uhd love these old west films we don't get many these days so when one comes along it's an event in my theater for sure, thanks for reviewing this on uhd. Thanks Jim
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Ralph,

Thank you for the review. This will be a sure buy. I like all three actors and what I saw in the previews looked good to me.

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Why are British people so fascinated in doing American western movies these days? Most of the stars in "Godless" were British, too. Not a criticism, just an observation.

However, I'm looking forward to seeing this one because of Bale and Pike.

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Why are British people so fascinated in doing American western movies these days? Most of the stars in "Godless" were British, too. Not a criticism, just an observation.

However, I'm looking forward to seeing this one because of Bale and Pike.
... I'm just happy that SOMEONE is making Western Films ... only thing better is when it's a "good" Western !
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... I'm just happy that SOMEONE is making Western Films ... only thing better is when it's a "good" Western !
I'm with you there.

After Open Range, it got scarce. Godless is a terrific series, and I liked The Homesman and a couple of others. Need more.

The Revenant was kind of a western, and I thought it was phenomenal.
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You can see quite a few of these same actors in the remake of 310 to Yuma.
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However, I'm looking forward to seeing this one because of Bale and Pike.
Nah. Bale is Welsh.
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'Hostiles' was a blind buy for me yesterday, I watched it in the afternoon. Outstanding film, much more so than I was expecting. It deserved to be nominated for Best Picture, IMHO.

For those with Apple TV 4K, you might want to consider purchasing the standard Blu-ray version. Its digital copy code is redeemable directly in iTunes, which gives you a "free" upgrade to the 4K HDR version.

As with all iTunes 4K presentations I've watched on my Apple TV 4K, I found this one to be quite excellent.

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Good tip but until streamers/streaming includes the HD immersive audio I will purchase the 4K disk. Disk playback when want the best of the best sir. Stream when want decent but convenient playback.
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Digital redemption code is either or UV or iTUNES. Its not Movies Anywhere. Really annoying.
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Sorry don’t get the whispering all the way through the movie. Its a good movie. But really? Did no one speak up in the 1800’s?
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I may pick this up, but more importantly it reminded me that it's high time I watched 3:10 to Yuma again!
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Netfllix Blu-ray came today. Watching via projection with a 92" screen i enjoyed the expansive landscapes - widescreen at its best. Also got a kick seeing name actors in supporting roles - Stephen Lang, Paul Anderson, Adam Beach.
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"We Are All…Hostiles"

I consider myself to be a fan of period films, especially those taking place in the old west. Hostiles interested me due to its subject matter and the casting of Christian Bale, Wes Studi, and Rosamund Pike. Firstly, I loved the film’s cinematography. The backdrop of the story is every bit as essential to its telling and it’s captured beautifully. The narrative has a gritty classic western feel, that is shaped as much by its unflinching brutality as its resonating drama, which speaks to the human condition during desperate times, that called for desperate measures.

The characters aren’t diverse in design, but it’s the evolution of their relationships over the course of the film that proves engaging. Not all of what transpires flows smoothly within the construct of the plotline or thematic tone, and the film runs about 20 minutes too long, but I found the spirit of Hostiles to be compelling. The action is quite good, and doesn’t feel disingenuous, given the time frame and references featured in the story. I found the performances to be very good, especially by the three core actors, Bale, Pike, and Studi. Hostiles isn’t classic western fare, but it most definitely rooted in the genre, and delivers a rewarding film experience that should appeal to discerning fans.


Based on the manuscript by Donald E. Stewart, and written/directed by Scott Cooper, Hostiles is an engaging, and gritty western drama that benefits from solid performances, and enriching cinematography. It comes to Blu-ray in this Ultra HD Blu-ray Combo Pack from Lionsgate Home Entertainment featuring faithful video quality, excellent lossless sound and a fair supplemental offering. Hostiles is time well spent and deserves a place near the top of your Blu-ray rental queue.


... Had a chance to watch this Film and I could not agree with you more. While the Characters were not diverse the Acting and the Movie's Cinematography was superb. Definitely a Spirit moving film enhanced by UHD and Sound Track which can put us in one of the saddles as we traverse the wide open wilderness with no McDonalds or Burger King Restaurants to be found anywhere nearby.



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'Hostiles' was a blind buy for me yesterday, I watched it in the afternoon. Outstanding film, much more so than I was expecting. It deserved to be nominated for Best Picture, IMHO.


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... Also can not agree with you more with this being an outstanding film and much more then I expected. With the Acting, Spirituality, and Cinematography I found myself becoming much more immersed into this movie then what I expected.
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Hi Ralph

The wife and I watched this one last night and it quickly reminded one as any good western just how rough it was around these parts. I rather liked the way the story was told by simply saying just what needed to be said and not much more, it really spoke to the true resolve of just what it can mean to be human testing endurance and calls into question just when one has had enough. Audio,visuals and music score helped anchor the story and must say I'm glad I did a blind buy.

Thanks again for a spot on review

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The wife and I watched this one last night and it quickly reminded one as any good western just how rough it was around these parts. I rather liked the way the story was told by simply saying just what needed to be said and not much more, it really spoke to the true resolve of just what it can mean to be human testing endurance and calls into question just when one has had enough. Audio,visuals and music score helped anchor the story and must say I'm glad I did a blind buy.

Thanks again for a spot on review

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You're welcome Jeff and thanks for sharing your thoughts.


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The "credits are rolling" and I thought I would chime in to say I really liked this film, especially the character development and the dramatic story-line. As Ralph pointed out, the cinematography was beautiful and added greatly to the story. Black levels could have been better, but overall I was satisfied with the many night time scenes...shadow details were exemplary at times. Flesh tones faltered at times, with some having a red push.

I know this may be too "slow-paced" for most in this day of non-stop action movies, but it held my attention from the opening scene to the "rolling of the credits."

Oh, BTW, this was a Redbox rental, so it was ONLY the 1080p version, but there were many reference scenes to satisfy those looking for EYE CANDY.
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The "credits are rolling" and I thought I would chime in to say I really liked this film, especially the character development and the dramatic story-line. As Ralph pointed out, the cinematography was beautiful and added greatly to the story. Black levels could have been better, but overall I was satisfied with the many night time scenes...shadow details were exemplary at times. Flesh tones faltered at times, with some having a red push.

I know this may be too "slow-paced" for most in this day of non-stop action movies, but it held my attention from the opening scene to the "rolling of the credits."

Oh, BTW, this was a Redbox rental, so it was ONLY the 1080p version, but there were many reference scenes to satisfy those looking for EYE CANDY.

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Borrowed the BD off of a friend and watched this by myself last night with a nice Scotch on the rocks. Wow, this is some heavy duty film making and not at all what I was expecting. Christian Bale is world class and so is Rosamund Pike. 1080p video looked great, almost watched this on my Plazz downstairs but decided against it at the last minute. Didn’t feel like a movie from 2018. I really enjoyed it. Will probably have to buy it eventually.
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Watched the BD tonight. Great movie. Very well acted. Ralph's review is spot on. DTS-HD sounded fantastic.
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This has been in my queue for purchase for a couple weeks but haven't made the decision yet. On a recent United flight it was an option to watch so I decided to give it an initial watch before making a purchase. I thought the film was very good and echo many of the thoughts here (of course, looking at cinematography and audio will not be accurately portrayed). My one criticism of the film is that, especially towards the end, is the number of times they were burying people. I know the West was rough and it was a key piece of the film, it simply became too much for me at the end. Here comes the shovel again... Perhaps on my home theatre I'll feel differently because sound and cinematography overcome that piece of it.

Great story, phenomenal work by Pike and Bale.
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This has been in my queue for purchase for a couple weeks but haven't made the decision yet. On a recent United flight it was an option to watch so I decided to give it an initial watch before making a purchase. I thought the film was very good and echo many of the thoughts here (of course, looking at cinematography and audio will not be accurately portrayed). My one criticism of the film is that, especially towards the end, is the number of times they were burying people. I know the West was rough and it was a key piece of the film, it simply became too much for me at the end. Here comes the shovel again... Perhaps on my home theatre I'll feel differently because sound and cinematography overcome that piece of it.

Great story, phenomenal work by Pike and Bale.
This movie should have been named No One Gets Out Alive. If you enjoy gratuitous violence this movie is for you.

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This movie should have been named No One Gets Out Alive. If you enjoy gratuitous violence this movie is for you.
I suspect the depictions of violent events was an amalgam of similar/anecdotal historical events, though probably not happening to a single group over a short timespan.

This film was an outstanding western for me.

Watched via Amazon HD stream, as I had free rental credit. Viewed on a ~10 year old Epson HC720, many daylight/sunrise/sunset vistas still looked outstanding.

I plan to followup with a 4K disc purchase to watch on my new RS420.

Yes, the west was lawless at the time, especially away from towns.

It appears the depiction of the ruthless/brutal Comanches was appropriate
http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/...grown-western/

I suspect some viewers may be incredulous re: the brutality of humans against humans- the fur traders kidnapping the women (for trade/slaves), the land claim of the ranchers resulting n the final gunfight.

But this is the world we live in, like it or not.

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Watched this tonight and really enjoyed it. Bale is fantastic as always. Wasnt super original....weve seen it all before, but it was worth a watch. The scenery was outstanding. Sound was pretty impressive as well. Definitely wort a watch.
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