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Excellent review, Ralph--very much looking forward to seeing and hearing this on on my system. smile.gif

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Excellent review, Ralph--very much looking forward to seeing and hearing this on on my system. smile.gif

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the whole scene where the seals are pinned down last forever and is a true war masterpiece sound. The bullets, the rockets... it's not the deepest of bass and doesn't need to be. The whole scene will be a go to for me for some time.

I will say that I read the book and was a little disappointed with Hollywood's take on it.
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Rare movie that brought me out to a theater, with a Marine buddy of mine. Very very emotional movie and can't wait to buy it so the wife can watch it.
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Ralph,

Thanks for the review. smile.gif

Lone Survivor on BR has extremely hot and LONG content at 6.4Hz and 19.2Hz often when there's a chopper onscreen. Two instances stand out. Starting at the 20min mark there is a 10s burst that contains interesting sweeps and strong tones at those frequencies (with additional content at the fundamentals above). Then, at the 21min mark there is a constant 1min long blast at those frequencies. This is significantly longer and hotter than the frequently-lauded "F***ing Irene* scene in Black Hawk Down.

I'll post the usual graphs and measurements at Josh Ricci's Data-Bass when it's formally released, but wanted to give you a heads up.
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Thanks Ralph smile.gif and shout out to nube! ( nice one two punch)

I'm super excited to get my hands on this ! Preordering tomorrow wink.gif
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Thanks Ralph smile.gif and shout out to nube! ( nice one two punch)

I'm super excited to get my hands on this ! Preordering tomorrow wink.gif

I've preordered mine also Jeff smile.gif
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Thanks for the review. smile.gif

Lone Survivor on BR has extremely hot and LONG content at 6.4Hz and 19.2Hz often when there's a chopper onscreen. Two instances stand out. Starting at the 20min mark there is a 10s burst that contains interesting sweeps and strong tones at those frequencies (with additional content at the fundamentals above). Then, at the 21min mark there is a constant 1min long blast at those frequencies. This is significantly longer and hotter than the frequently-lauded "F***ing Irene* scene in Black Hawk Down.

I'll post the usual graphs and measurements at Josh Ricci's Data-Bass when it's formally released, but wanted to give you a heads up.

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Thanks Ralph smile.gif and shout out to nube! ( nice one two punch)

I'm super excited to get my hands on this ! Preordering tomorrow wink.gif

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Sure thing Jeff. I look forward to your thoughts once you've seen it...smile.gif



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Great review Ralph! As far as I'm concerned, this is a must have. I'll be ordering one, that's for sure.

 

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I do not pre-order many blu rays, but when I do...it is based on a review by Ralph!
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I just got this movie in today and I wish my HT was up and running now, but I am awaiting parts. Friday can't get here soon enough!

Nube, good to see this movie makes high marks in the bass dept.

Great review as always Ralph, thanks!
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Data-Bass measurements of Lone Survivor have been posted.
Cool, thanks.

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Just finished watching it with some buddies tonight. Wow. Just wow. What an amazing movie. I can't believe the @#$% those guys went through. The cinematography was stellar and the sound...holy crap. I mean, pick a scene. What a fantastic use of surround sound. I literally felt every gunshot, explosion, fall, you name it. Just a reference movie in every way. Great review as usual, Ralph.

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Great movie!

Well written. Nicely shot. Emotionally engaging.

I personally know some bad a** SEALs and this movie does them justice.

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Ralph love your reviews i got a question for you though.
what do you use to figure out the bitrates of movies
hardware or software ?
i am looking for something that will display audio bit rates
i remember the ps3 did it is there any other device that does it that you know of in hardware form
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While the LF and ULF is impressive, the mid bass and midrange are the real stars in this film. Sound mixing is very well done, and a number of us were ducking involuntarily as all heck broke loose in the enemy contact scenes. The plot and certain scenes require a fair amount of extra suspension of disbelief, but the soundtrack never disappoints, and the action is compelling.

For me it has repeat viewing potential, both visually and aurally.

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While the LF and ULF is impressive, the mid bass and midrange are the real stars in this film. Sound mixing is very well done, and a number of us were ducking involuntarily as all heck broke loose in the enemy contact scenes. The plot and certain scenes require a fair amount of extra suspension of disbelief, but the soundtrack never disappoints, and the action is compelling.

For me it has repeat viewing potential, both visually and aurally.

What part of the plot do you think requires a suspension of belief other than the number of enemy fighters they were facing? In the movie they face 200, it real life the number was somewhere between 50 and 60, but according to military data taken from the scenes, these four men killed the majority of the bad guys during the battle and for even one of them surviving says a lot about their fortitude and training.

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Ralph: picked this up the first night it was out in Best Buy. Very intense and brutal film. This is why I got my JVC pj for. The surrounds got a good workout from all the bullets and copter action. I agree with the score, especially the video which shows the great detail of the New Mexico landscape, uniforms, and facial features.. I will definitely watch again and checkout the extras also..A great "shake your head, they went thru hell" video.. wow
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Ralph love your reviews i got a question for you though.
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i remember the ps3 did it is there any other device that does it that you know of in hardware form

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Ralph: picked this up the first night it was out in Best Buy. Very intense and brutal film. This is why I got my JVC pj for. The surrounds got a good workout from all the bullets and copter action. I agree with the score, especially the video which shows the great detail of the New Mexico landscape, uniforms, and facial features.. I will definitely watch again and checkout the extras also..A great "shake your head, they went thru hell" video.. wow

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Hey Ralph,

Yet ANOTHER...spot-on review!!

I was so impressed with this that I recommended it for the REFERENCE TIER in the "PQ Blu-ray Thread"; in fact, I thought it was deserving of a spot in the upper 1/3 of that tier. Facial details were exemplary, revealing every ounce of blood, sweat and tears, along with dirt, grime, snot, cuts, bruises, etc. Details in general and depth were outstanding! And the list goes on of stellar virtues, with the only censure being a couple of fleeting instances of faltering blacks with a smidgen of noise.

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What part of the plot do you think requires a suspension of belief other than the number of enemy fighters they were facing? In the movie they face 200, it real life the number was somewhere between 50 and 60, but according to military data taken from the scenes, these four men killed the majority of the bad guys during the battle and for even one of them surviving says a lot about their fortitude and training.

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There were a few things that really asked me to suspend my disbelief. Of course in every film we're asked to do this, because there are always elements that intellectually we know cannot be believed. Most of us don't believe there are vampires, but we're willing to suspend that disbelief because it's a lot of fun to explore and engage the vampire mythology.

With a story like Lone Survivor, which is based on fact rather than fiction, there are times when we know things differently than the movie portrays, and we understand that the writer and/or director deliberately changes things to increase the emotion or impact of the story. Since I knew the story fairly well from a number of different accounts, I knew for example that he didn't "die" on the gurney and revive with a defibrillator. He also didn't have that reflective inner monologue, but it was a nicely staged dramatic device that only required that I temporarily ignore the fact that I know it didn't happen so I could enjoy it.

There are other small and not so small things. For example the ebb and flow of the enemy contact is like many other films where the bullets are flying fast and furious until the characters need a quiet moment for important dialog to be spoken, and I think, "It's nice of the attackers to be holding fire until these guys are done speaking."

We also know that the drama played out at Afghan village never happened, and the plot literally flies off the rails if you're picking nits. There was no attack on the village, no swirling just-in-time arrival of choppers to blast the attackers into oblivion, no dramatic we've got to leave now moment, etc. Again, I loved the movie but there were times when I had to subdue the facts because the plot had gone into uncharted territory.
I was glad to see "Based on a true story" rather than "This is a true story." That's all I needed to see to know there'd be plenty of artistic license and that I could watch it as an entertainment and homage, but not as history.

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Totally agree with every point you just made. They had to "Hollywood" it up to have a typical storybook ending. In real life the Taliban wouldn't have attacked like that because the villagers outnumbered them and presumably there aren't anti-gun Nazi's in Afghanistan like there are in the US wink.gif so they could defend themselves.

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Got my copy from Amazon and watched it the other day--excellent film. Very much (in my mind) along the lines of Zero Dark Thirty--which is a good thing--loved that one too. Totally different situation of course but a very intense film and another great story involving our Navy SEALS and others in the Armed Forces. For me one of the highlights was the attack battle near the end of the film and I especially enjoyed seeing the AC-130 in action (being an Air Force Vet). Don't see them in a lot of movies but they are an awesome fighting machine. Great sound presence--especially during the gun battles where shots can be heard throughout the room. Very realistic and of course you can't go wring as far as LFE when it comes to helicopter battles. Highly recommended.
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Watched this tonight. What a fantastic recovery for Peter Berg after the dreck that is Battleship.

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Thanks for reviewing Lone Survivor, Ralph! cool.gif

I watched it a couple of days ago on blu-ray and enjoyed it thoroughly, but do plan to watch it again in another day, or two. However, the volume is going to be cranked up a bit more this time around... smile.gif
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