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The Outlaw King is a Dolby Vision release, which on the 940D should be producing HDR. When you check the picture settings, is it showing HDR Picture Mode? And if you are using the TV Netflix app, then the video is not being routed through the AVR, so it has no effect on the picture quality.
Yes, it says HDR, but why is pq so bad?

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Hey guys. I’m sure this has been answered somewhere in the last 1000 pages.... Lol I did do a search but couldn’t find exactly what I was looking for so don’t flame me for my question.

I just realized that my hdr setting for the external hdmi was off. Should I turn them on?? Right now I’m running my direct tv dvr and my entry level 4K player to my Yamaha 1060(through no processing) and then to my hdmi 1 on my tv. I jacked with it a little bit but really couldn’t tell the difference when watching a 4K movie. But I don’t know if I’m missing something. Thanks for any insight for a technicaly challenged person.
The HDMI port on the 940D should be set to “Enhanced” for sources capable of 4K and HDR. Remember that regardless of the setting, the display always up-scales any source to 4K. It is really only for HDR that the setting will make a difference. When you say “entry level 4K player”, is it capable of HDR? The DTV DVR is likely only outputting 1080i at best, unless you have DTV 4K service.
Thanks for the reply sir. Good to see your still here. Yes the 4K player is hdr capable. When I’m watching regular tv the display on the 940 reads1080i or whatever the source is. Is this correct? But it is still being upscalled.
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The HDMI port on the 940D should be set to “Enhanced” for sources capable of 4K and HDR. Remember that regardless of the setting, the display always up-scales any source to 4K. It is really only for HDR that the setting will make a difference. .
Jerry, I always wondered why this option was even there. Is there some advantage to using the non-enhanced mode if the source isn't 4K. I don't get why they all aren't "enhanced" OTB? Any ideas on this?

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Jerry, I always wondered why this option was even there. Is there some advantage to using the non-enhanced mode if the source isn't 4K. I don't get why they all aren't "enhanced" OTB? Any ideas on this?
Sorry, I don’t understand the underlying difference. Since there is so much HDR content these days, all inputs should be set to enhanced.

Edit: I think Steve probably has it right.

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Jerry, I always wondered why this option was even there. Is there some advantage to using the non-enhanced mode if the source isn't 4K. I don't get why they all aren't "enhanced" OTB? Any ideas on this?
My understanding is that there are some older devices (pre HDR, etc.) that could not handshake properly if it were set to enhanced. So, for backward compatibility, they defaulted to off.

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Thanks for the reply sir. Good to see your still here. Yes the 4K player is hdr capable. When I’m watching regular tv the display on the 940 reads1080i or whatever the source is. Is this correct? But it is still being upscalled.
I’ve been thinking about rerouting my hdmi cables through my tv instead of my receiver. Just trying to get the best signal possible to the Tv.
The Display command on the TV always shows the resolution of the incoming signal. All signals are up-scaled to 2160p. BTW, the DVR should be configured to output native resolution so that the TV can do the up-scaling. And any upscaling in the AVR should be turned off, since the Bravia upscale will likely do the best job with up-scaling.
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Are you saying all HDR content from Netflix looks bad on your 940D? If yes, then something is wrong. If only this program looks bad, then it is the program, not the TV.
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Are you saying all HDR content from Netflix looks bad on your 940D? If yes, then something is wrong. If only this program looks bad, then it is the program, not the TV.
I'll try another movie to check. I thought 940 can display DD? I know Netflix tv app can.

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I'll try another movie to check. I thought 940 can display DD? I know Netflix tv app can.

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Hopefully you mistakenly typed DD for Dolby Vision which the 940d cannot display, Netflix will output those titles In HDR10.

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Thanks for the reply sir. Good to see your still here. Yes the 4K player is hdr capable. When I’m watching regular tv the display on the 940 reads1080i or whatever the source is. Is this correct? But it is still being upscalled.
I’ve been thinking about rerouting my hdmi cables through my tv instead of my receiver. Just trying to get the best signal possible to the Tv.
The Display command on the TV always shows the resolution of the incoming signal. All signals are up-scaled to 2160p. BTW, the DVR should be configured to output native resolution so that the TV can do the up-scaling. And any upscaling in the AVR should be turned off, since the Bravia upscale will likely do the best job with up-scaling.
Yup. Thanks. I turned all my hdmi to enhanced. I did notice a pop up saying only hdmi 2,3 are compatible. I’m in hdmi 1 now. If I read and understood that correctly should I switch to 2 or 3 ports? This is the last question I promise. Lol 🙂

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Yup. Thanks. I turned all my hdmi to enhanced. I did notice a pop up saying only hdmi 2,3 are compatible. I’m in hdmi 1 now. If I read and understood that correctly should I switch to 2 or 3 ports? This is the last question I promise. Lol 🙂
If I recall correctly, only HDMI 2 and 3 can carry the highest speed video, so yes, I would switch to one of those ports.
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Gomo657 is correct—the 940D cannot display Dolby Vision, but will convert it to HDR10, which will cause the display to switch to HDR mode.
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So it seems I’m in the market for a new 4K player. Kinda leaning towards the Sony x700 or the panny 820. I know this isn’t a 4K Blu-ray thread but I’m interested in how these players perform with our tv’s. I know there is a price difference but would there be benefit paying the extra money for the panny with our tv upscaling and features? With our tv specs and features would one out weigh the other.
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So it seems I’m in the market for a new 4K player. Kinda leaning towards the Sony x700 or the panny 820. I know this isn’t a 4K Blu-ray thread but I’m interested in how these players perform with our tv’s. I know there is a price difference but would there be benefit paying the extra money for the panny with our tv upscaling and features? With our tv specs and features would one out weigh the other.
I really don’t want to start a discussion on personal preference just tv capadability.
Personally I would stay with the Sony on the basis that it will play SACD and DVD-A multich music discs. Video performance will be identical between units.

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So it seems I’m in the market for a new 4K player. Kinda leaning towards the Sony x700 or the panny 820. I know this isn’t a 4K Blu-ray thread but I’m interested in how these players perform with our tv’s. I know there is a price difference but would there be benefit paying the extra money for the panny with our tv upscaling and features? With our tv specs and features would one out weigh the other.
I really don’t want to start a discussion on personal preference just tv capadability.
Personally I would stay with the Sony on the basis that it will play SACD and DVD-A multich music discs. Video performance will be identical between units.
If video performance is close to identical I can’t see spending the extra cash. Thx

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So it seems I’m in the market for a new 4K player. Kinda leaning towards the Sony x700 or the panny 820. I know this isn’t a 4K Blu-ray thread but I’m interested in how these players perform with our tv’s. I know there is a price difference but would there be benefit paying the extra money for the panny with our tv upscaling and features? With our tv specs and features would one out weigh the other.
I really don’t want to start a discussion on personal preference just tv capadability.
Personally I would go for the Panasonic since its HDR Optimizer will be useful in conjunction with the X940D.

The 820 also has the ability to control brightness and positions of subtitles, which might come in handy to counter any potential blooming caused by bright subtitles during dark scenes/letterbox bars with HDR content.
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Gomo657 is correct—the 940D cannot display Dolby Vision, but will convert it to HDR10, which will cause the display to switch to HDR mode.
Woops. I'm in the wrong thread. I've got the 940e.

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General Observations. Acquired a new Sony XBR85x900F and over the last several months, while not intentionally, have come to some comparison conclusions.

Major differences of the 2 sets 940d versus 900F are:

Size 75 versus 85. Lot more screen space makes you feel more immersed in the Video aspect.

HRD verses Dolby Vision/IMAX Enhanced. Yeah Dolby Vison is a tad better. But I find it pretty difficult to tell the difference between the 940d's HDR picture and the 900F's Dolby Vision. IMHO if the only difference were HDR versus DV. I would say its not worth the upgrade. Another words the 940d HDR is pretty awesome and closely rivals the PQ of the 900F in DV. Your not missing much. My major reason for the upgrade was 75 to 85". The 940d still impresses me and in my side by side comparison (Actually in different rooms and not side by side) I am hard pressed if not impossible to tell the difference between the two sets.

Just thought I would toss this out there. Still loving my 940d! It was and remains a top performer.
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Size 75 versus 85. Lot more screen space makes you feel more immersed in the Video aspect.
My major reason for the upgrade was 75 to 85".
Just thought I would toss this out there. Still loving my 940d! It was and remains a top performer.
Thanks for the input! I'm on the edge to get a 85", just waiting a bit longer till the price comes down a bit more. Who knows what might happen when the Superdud sales come around?
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HDMI issues continue

SO I have had this tv for well over 3 years and I consistently have HDMI issues. I am wondering if anyone else experiences these issues. I have a Marantz SR7012 and all my devices go into it and out to the TV. When I switch specifically to PS4 pro sometimes I will get a picture and sometimes I will not. Usually it with just drop the connection then come back and repeat this for 3 minutes straight. Usually the fix is to turn off the Marantz and the TV back on and 50/50 it will come back. My biggest issues with this TV are when using an Apple TV 4K when I go to 24HZ the TV usually does not get a signal. I then go back to the main menu and picture comes right back (4K60). Try to go back to 4K24 and no picture. Its a crap shoot if I will get a picture.

Anyone else having these issues? If so how have you fixed it you did.

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Anyone else having these issues? If so how have you fixed it you did.

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Your issues sound like HDMI handshake issues. First I'd replace all cables with inexpensive Monoprice HDMI Premium keeping runs as short as possible. If issues continue the problem most probably belongs to the Marantz...
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I have a JVC projector I have tried in place of the Sony and no issues what-so-ever.

All cables are premium Key Digital PRO cables and AVPRO Edge cables. While the sources have short runs the TV and Projector are using AVPro Edge Bullet train active HDMI cables. I have replaced the cables more times then I can count.
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I have a JVC projector I have tried in place of the Sony and no issues what-so-ever.

All cables are premium Key Digital PRO cables and AVPRO Edge cables. While the sources have short runs the TV and Projector are using AVPro Edge Bullet train active HDMI cables. I have replaced the cables more times then I can count.
I have the ATV 4K as well. All of my source components are connected to a Marantz 8802a, which has video up-conversion turned off. The 8802a is connected to the 940D on HDMI2 (AFAIK, only HDMI2 and 3 support high bandwidth connections). I had some issues with the early software versions on the ATV, but the software versions in the last year or so have been rock-solid. Otherwise, I have ZERO HDMI issues on this display.

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