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Who can recommend a sturdy wall mount for this TV? I’m going to look on monoprice.
But anyone have their 930C up on a wall mount for a good long time without any issues?
I've had my 930C for about 2 years on this mount with no problems whatsoever. It's pretty easy to set up, sturdy and is full motion

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I got the update a couple of days ago, but not sure what it contained. I’m surprised that Sony is still providing updates for the 940c.
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do everybody happy with their X940C?
I hope them are the best universal TV sets ever.

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Since getting my 77” OLED, I really don’t watch much on the 940c. Although the picture is still very good, I have to say the Sony Android OS still drives me nuts. It’s so slow and takes so long to boot up and stabilize, it feels like a 10 year old computer. I can’t believe Sony still sticks with this miserable OS in their new TVs...at least their iteration of the Android OS.
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Me personally using 940C only as 4K monitor+speakers, with all the whistles provided... 3D, Motion flow e.t.c.
Today we have no such TV on the market. But Android sucks for sure.

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I'm astounded at how well this TV can upscale 480p content to be watchable at my 8ft viewing distance. I watched Christmas Vacation on DVD last week, which I'm sure is not top quality to begin with, and it was perfectly acceptable. Is Sony really that far ahead of the manufacturers on this? I read lots of complaints about upscaling on these forums but never about Sony.
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Some transport advice please.
I’m selling my 930C to a friend.
No box obviously, he has a Acura MDX so it should fit it the back of it. Should it be laid down face/screen down on blanket/comforter or on its back? Not goin far either 5 min ride,10 min tops! He is goin to mount it also. Was thinking maybe install vesa brackets while on my table top stand also so this way can hang it in one move and then adjust if we need too.

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Some transport advice please.
I’m selling my 930C to a friend.
No box obviously, he has a Acura MDX so it should fit it the back of it. Should it be laid down face/screen down on blanket/comforter or on its back? Not goin far either 5 min ride,10 min tops! He is goin to mount it also. Was thinking maybe install vesa brackets while on my table top stand also so this way can hang it in one move and then adjust if we need too.
It's best to transport it upright if at all possible (U-haul trailer?). If you must lay it down, I would probably lay it on its back. DON'T put bubble wrap right next to the screen to protect it (it will likely leave marks from the bubbles). Just make sure it is secured and won't move while in motion.

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do everybody happy with their X940C?
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Since getting my 77” OLED, I really don’t watch much on the 940c. Although the picture is still very good, I have to say the Sony Android OS still drives me nuts. It’s so slow and takes so long to boot up and stabilize, it feels like a 10 year old computer. I can’t believe Sony still sticks with this miserable OS in their new TVs...at least their iteration of the Android OS.
I don't use the internal apps as the processor just won't handle them quickly enough for my liking. Other than that, I have a 65" A1E in my bedroom and if I could afford the 77", I would change the 940C. However, I have no issues with the 940C as it is more than capable of providing a superb picture.

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Some transport advice please.
I’m selling my 930C to a friend.
No box obviously, he has a Acura MDX so it should fit it the back of it. Should it be laid down face/screen down on blanket/comforter or on its back? Not goin far either 5 min ride,10 min tops! He is goin to mount it also. Was thinking maybe install vesa brackets while on my table top stand also so this way can hang it in one move and then adjust if we need too.
It's best to transport it upright if at all possible (U-haul trailer?). If you must lay it down, I would probably lay it on its back. DON'T put bubble wrap right next to the screen to protect it (it will likely leave marks from the bubbles). Just make sure it is secured and won't move while in motion.
Thanks most likely I will lay it down on it’s back as I figured laying it screen down will put some pressure and possibly damage or even scratch it. Maybe with 3 of us moving it we can some how hold it upright for the drive over? I plan on using clean heavy comforters too.

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I have a 65" A1E in my bedroom and if I could afford the 77", I would change the 940C. However, I have no issues with the 940C as it is more than capable of providing a superb picture.
what would be the profit of this change? Broken near black and motion?

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what would be the profit of this change? Broken near black and motion?
The contrast ratio and viewing angle of an OLED can’t be beat. Once you become accustomed to the OLED’s picture, it’s tough to go back to LCD. Motion is absolutely fine.
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1.Once you become accustomed to the OLED’s picture, it’s tough to go back to LCD.
2. Motion is absolutely fine.
1. Once you become accustomed to 9405C peak brightness, motion and near black handling, it`s tough to go from 9405C.
I really don`t care about contrast when I can`t see many details in shadows and see a lot of banding instead of detail. And 2018 LG oled bug with flashing blacks is real shame.

2. I can believe if you don`t use motion interpolation... but you should use it for 4K on 75" screen.

AFAIK, you have tryied oled few times before buying 9405C but were very unhappy. Did you change your mind?

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Well I’m saying farewell to this thread I sold my beloved 930C to a friend tonight. Great tv for the almost 3 years I had it! My first experience with 4K HDR and it renewed my interest in home cinema! I’m going with a smaller 55 inch Sony A9F OLED for now as place holder until I decide on my next large panel TV. The A9F will then go to the bedroom. I wanna go up to 75 for my living room I’m seriously considering the Z9F but I’m going to wait til CES19 in less than 2 weeks we will know what Sony’s next plans are.

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what would be the profit of this change? Broken near black and motion?
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1. Once you become accustomed to 9405C peak brightness, motion and near black handling, it's tough to go from 9405C.

I really don't care about contrast when I can't see many details in shadows and see a lot of banding instead of detail. And 2018 LG oled bug with flashing blacks is real shame.

2. I can believe if you don't use motion interpolation... but you should use it for 4K on 75" screen.

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If you haven't tried a Sony OLED, you should take a look before bucketing all OLEDs as the same.
you are right, when I spoke about motion issues I did mean mostly LG...
But did you check black level and near black issues with your A1E?
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I will get back to LCD when I go to a larger panel like a 75 unless they come out with an OLED in that size range that will increase brightness and be under 10K with the new upcoming technology. I like brightness in the LCDs. That’s why I just went with a smaller panel for now and something that won’t be a monstrosity in the bedroom like my 930C would have been.

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you are right, when I spoke about motion issues I did mean mostly LG...
But did you check black level and near black issues with your A1E?
Are you happy with almost double drop in HDR peak brightness against 9405C?
I checked near-black and don't see any issues at all. My OLED is in a light controlled area (bedroom) and my 940C is in the family room. I don't see an issue as the OLED is plenty bright.

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I will get back to LCD when I go to a larger panel like a 75 unless they come out with an OLED in that size range that will increase brightness and be under 10K with the new upcoming technology. I like brightness in the LCDs. That’s why I just went with a smaller panel for now and something that won’t be a monstrosity in the bedroom like my 930C would have been.
Thats funny. Earlier this year I bought a 75" z9d and moved my 940c to my master bedroom. It looks so crazy hanging on the wall but Ive gotten use to it. For the first couple of weeks every time I would walk in the room I would laugh.
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I will get back to LCD when I go to a larger panel like a 75 unless they come out with an OLED in that size range that will increase brightness and be under 10K with the new upcoming technology. I like brightness in the LCDs. That’s why I just went with a smaller panel for now and something that won’t be a monstrosity in the bedroom like my 930C would have been.
Thats funny. Earlier this year I bought a 75" z9d and moved my 940c to my master bedroom. It looks so crazy hanging on the wall but Ive gotten use to it. For the first couple of weeks every time I would walk in the room I would laugh.
Yeah that’s more of a monstrosity than the 930C ! The side speakers as much as liked them just made the tv too bulky on my stand in my bedroom and it would have barely fit! It would have definitely dominated the room. I figured I’d dial it back with a 55 for now and just pick up an OLED. I have a ten year old Sony 40 inch LCD in the bedroom room now, imagine the 25 inch increase in there and I’d say my bedroom room is a medium size with a queen in there lol

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Yeah that’s more of a monstrosity than the 930C ! The side speakers as much as liked them just made the tv too bulky on my stand in my bedroom and it would have barely fit! It would have definitely dominated the room. I figured I’d dial it back with a 55 for now and just pick up an OLED. I have a ten year old Sony 40 inch LCD in the bedroom room now, imagine the 25 inch increase in there and I’d say my bedroom room is a medium size with a queen in there lol
Yeah as good as the speakers are on the 940c and 930c I never used them once. Have a 7.3 setup in the living room and a 3.1 in the bedroom.
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Yeah that’s more of a monstrosity than the 930C ! The side speakers as much as liked them just made the tv too bulky on my stand in my bedroom and it would have barely fit! It would have definitely dominated the room. I figured I’d dial it back with a 55 for now and just pick up an OLED. I have a ten year old Sony 40 inch LCD in the bedroom room now, imagine the 25 inch increase in there and I’d say my bedroom room is a medium size with a queen in there lol
Yeah as good as the speakers are on the 940c and 930c I never used them once. Have a 7.3 setup in the living room and a 3.1 in the bedroom.
I did plenty with non Atmos stuff and I had the factory sub too! Right now I just have a Samsung Atmos bar which is a pain. I will be going traditional Atmos and DTS-X soon with a real AVR and speaker set up when I could save up some cash and I wanna do it right! 7.2.4 eventually.

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I checked near-black and don't see any issues at all. My OLED is in a light controlled area (bedroom) and my 940C is in the family room. I don't see an issue as the OLED is plenty bright.
How you did check the near black issues?
your oled is almost twice darker than 9405c with HDR content.

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Thats funny. Earlier this year I bought a 75" z9d and moved my 940c to my master bedroom. It looks so crazy hanging on the wall but Ive gotten use to it. For the first couple of weeks every time I would walk in the room I would laugh.
imho sony 9405C is very bad choise for bedroom, because view angles are very narrow, I should say, extremely narrow. Especially with HDR.

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imho sony 9405C is very bad choise for bedroom, because view angles are very narrow, I should say, extremely narrow. Especially with HDR.
Yeah well I had sold my 65" 850b to my roommate so I didn't really have a choice. Thats why the 940c is angled down as much as possible. first world problems... Its still an awesome tv and I was lucky to get it at a pretty good discount near the end of its live span.
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How you did check the near black issues?

your oled is almost twice darker than 9405c with HDR content.
Sony HDR test patterns and dark content via disc/streaming.

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1. Once you become accustomed to 9405C peak brightness, motion and near black handling, it`s tough to go from 9405C.
I really don`t care about contrast when I can`t see many details in shadows and see a lot of banding instead of detail. And 2018 LG oled bug with flashing blacks is real shame.

2. I can believe if you don`t use motion interpolation... but you should use it for 4K on 75" screen.

AFAIK, you have tryied oled few times before buying 9405C but were very unhappy. Did you change your mind?
I have 2 OLEDs, a 65” and 77” as well as the 940c. Aside from the brightness of the 940c (which I don’t need), the OLED is superior in every way. I’m not trying to convince you, I really don’t care which you prefer, that’s your choice, but OLEDs are widely acknowledged to be the superior display. You’d be hard pressed to find a review that says otherwise.

As far as near black is concerned, I have no issues with newer OLEDs. Keep in mind that some LCDs may show what you think is better near black detail, but some of that detail may not be what the director intended to be seen.

Lastly, you have me confused with someone else, I never tried OLEDs and were unhappy with them. I loved OLED picture quality from the start.
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Sony HDR test patterns and dark content via disc/streaming.
About which sony patterns you speaking about? Never seen sony patterns...

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1. Aside from the brightness of the 940c (which I don’t need), the OLED is superior in every way.

2. As far as near black is concerned, I have no issues with newer OLEDs. Keep in mind that some LCDs may show what you think is better near black detail, but some of that detail may not be what the director intended to be seen.

3. Lastly, you have me confused with someone else, I never tried OLEDs and were unhappy with them. I loved OLED picture quality from the start.
1. If you don`t need brightness, then you don`t need HDR. proper HDR, as intended by director.
9405C is superior in every way over any oled except contrast and black level. motion handling same with sony tv sets.
Many oled owners complain about HDR10 because picture is unnatural and overcontrasted...

2. EVERY oled have near black issues, more or less. Looks like technology limitation and last case with flashing on LG, is one one of them...

3. May be. I read all the thread and many owners choose 9405C because of oled issues and bugs. Why you don`t buy oled in 2016?

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No problem if somebody changed his mind after awhile...

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