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I would rather get the TV from BestBuy - since having to play the panel lottery with the TCL I want to be able to take it back quickly for a replacement unit. Crutchfield - which I've used to purchase a lot of equipment has the x3400h for $599. I would rather stick with at least the x3400h or better for the XT32 processing. With the changes from the x3400h to x3500h being minimal, I think the x3400h would suit my needs the best.

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I am looking to upgrade the TV in my dedicated theater room. It's really our secondary display device, wall-mounted, with a motorized screen that drops down (115") and a JVC projector as the primary device. I upgraded the JVC a year ago so it can accept 4K / HDR signals. I'd like to upgrade the TV as well. Currently it's a 55" Sony from 2011 (KDL-55HX800). My needs are:

65" (will be wall-mounted)
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$2000 or less

The room has good light control. The sources most used with the TV are game systems (PS4, Switch), Apple TV 4K and a TiVo Roamio. Everything is running through a Denon X4300H.
For my use case any thoughts on these 65" TVs:

Sony X900F
Vizio PQ65-F1
Vizio P65-F1
Samsung Q7F
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Samsung NU8000

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For my use case any thoughts on these 65" TVs:

Sony X900F
Vizio PQ65-F1
Vizio P65-F1
Samsung Q7F
Samsung Q6F
Samsung NU8000

Thanks
Not sure how bad global dimming is in real life but Samsung has the and there doesn't seem to be a consensus if it can truly be turned off. Some say it's PC mode, some say it can be turned off in the service menu, some say you have to set backlight and brightness and white point at a certain setting and some say nothing truly eliminates it.

Those are all edge lit samsungs and if you like watching with subtitles, the blooming or flash lighting might be too aggressive



If you want less blooming, start with Q8FN.

X900F seem more versatile with lots of motion and processing settings but if you love samsung's low input lag and VRR settings, None of the others have those right now.

P Vizio, Q8 and above, Sony X900F are not edge lit and are called FALD tvs. They will have less blooming issues but will still have them specially at off angle.

X900F also has better viewing angle by a bit.

Don't know if it matters but I read samsung doesn't support DTS. Don't know what that means.
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Hi,

I'm considering "upgrading" my beloved Panny Plasma (TC-P65V10), it still works great but i'm itching for a 4k/75 inch set. A few things i'm considering

- The room is pretty bright during the day with some direct sunlight in the afternoon.
- The viewing angle is primarily straight on. Its on the long side of a rectable with a couch directly facing the wall and a chair on either side (one is next to the couch, one is more on the smaller side wall of the rectangle). I know viewing angle will suffer coming from a Plasma but i'm hoping that the chair next to the couch (which is still direct facing, just not directly on center) will be okay.
- Will be used primarily for DirecTV (NFL and linear TV), 4k streaming of content (Amazon, Netflix, etc...) I already have a 4k TV in another room so i'm familiar with the options here from a content perspective. Part of the reason of "upgrading" this set is that we never use this room anymore since the other one has a 4k set and anytime we watch something that is either in 4k or benefits from a large screen (sports), we use the other room.

So with that all said, it looks like the Sony 900f is a clear winner by most accounts, but it's almost $1k more that the Vizio P-75F. We have a Vizio M80-D3 (2016 edition) already so i'm familiar with the (somewhat clunky) interface and that doesn't scare me off. I just hesitate to pull the trigger on a set right before CES (I know no pricing talk is allowed but there is a good deal on the vizio out there) and am concerned about the panel lottery with these sets as well. Is this really even an upgrade as my Panny has been an amazing set for many years, but of course, is smaller and can only do 1080p.

Any thoughts or insights would be super helpful.
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For my use case any thoughts on these 65" TVs:

Sony X900F
Vizio PQ65-F1
Vizio P65-F1
Samsung Q7F
Samsung Q6F
Samsung NU8000

Thanks
I'd recommend either the Sony 900F or the Vizio PQ. The Sony has a better operating system interface and better 720P upscaling (marginally IMO). The Vizio is much brighter, deeper blacks and has lower gaming lag.

The Vizio P is a good choice if you want to save $500. The Samsungs are all decent but lack local dimming, not as good as the others for HDR brightness, and less color accuracy. The Q7 in particular is over priced.

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Don't know if it matters but I read samsung doesn't support DTS. Don't know what that means.
This just means that the TV can't output DTS sound from a DTS source. This shouldn't be a big deal for most people, unless they connect their UHD or BD player directly to the TV and then pass sound to an AVR or soundbar. Almost all streaming services will provide a Dolby soundtrack option.
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Hi,

I'm considering "upgrading" my beloved Panny Plasma (TC-P65V10), it still works great but i'm itching for a 4k/75 inch set. A few things i'm considering

- The room is pretty bright during the day with some direct sunlight in the afternoon.
- The viewing angle is primarily straight on. Its on the long side of a rectable with a couch directly facing the wall and a chair on either side (one is next to the couch, one is more on the smaller side wall of the rectangle). I know viewing angle will suffer coming from a Plasma but i'm hoping that the chair next to the couch (which is still direct facing, just not directly on center) will be okay.
- Will be used primarily for DirecTV (NFL and linear TV), 4k streaming of content (Amazon, Netflix, etc...) I already have a 4k TV in another room so i'm familiar with the options here from a content perspective. Part of the reason of "upgrading" this set is that we never use this room anymore since the other one has a 4k set and anytime we watch something that is either in 4k or benefits from a large screen (sports), we use the other room.

So with that all said, it looks like the Sony 900f is a clear winner by most accounts, but it's almost $1k more that the Vizio P-75F. We have a Vizio M80-D3 (2016 edition) already so i'm familiar with the (somewhat clunky) interface and that doesn't scare me off. I just hesitate to pull the trigger on a set right before CES (I know no pricing talk is allowed but there is a good deal on the vizio out there) and am concerned about the panel lottery with these sets as well. Is this really even an upgrade as my Panny has been an amazing set for many years, but of course, is smaller and can only do 1080p.

Any thoughts or insights would be super helpful.
There's always something better and cheaper coming down the road so I wouldn't let the CES show hold you back. Anything you choose will definitely be an upgrade on your plasma (except for black levels on HD content). Whether it is much of an upgrade on your Vizio M80 (which I understand to still be a very good TV) in your other room is a different question.

I would suggest that either the Sony 75 900F or the Vizio P75 wouldn't be an overall upgrade on the Vizio M80 but only you can put a value on having a 4K TV in this room. If you're determined to pull the trigger on one or the other, I would agree that the Sony is clearly better but not $1K better. If you're open to buying online, Buydig's Ebay store had the Sony on for $2249 all in yesterday. I don't see it today but you could always call to check. Any TV is a panel lottery but the Sony is less risk than the Vizio IMO. Costco has a good deal on the Vizio P75 as you probably know, and it has a excellent return policy.
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Thanks, very helpful and appreciated. I am not really looking to "beat" the M80, just get something reasonably on par so that when it comes time to watch something, we don't default to the room with the "better TV" (don't get me started on audio parity). I am leaning towards the Vizio for all of the reasons listed (value, ability to buy from costco and get 7 year warranty), etc... but I have such affection for my Panny plasma, it's hard to move on.
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Thanks, very helpful and appreciated. I am not really looking to "beat" the M80, just get something reasonably on par so that when it comes time to watch something, we don't default to the room with the "better TV" (don't get me started on audio parity). I am leaning towards the Vizio for all of the reasons listed (value, ability to buy from costco and get 7 year warranty), etc... but I have such affection for my Panny plasma, it's hard to move on.
I hear ya, I came over from my 60 Kuro plasma in 2017. It sounds like your home theater setup is where the plasma is. Why not swap locations for your Vizio and Panny?
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I'd recommend either the Sony 900F or the Vizio PQ. The Sony has a better operating system interface and better 720P upscaling (marginally IMO). The Vizio is much brighter, deeper blacks and has lower gaming lag.

The Vizio P is a good choice if you want to save $500. The Samsungs are all decent but lack local dimming, not as good as the others for HDR brightness, and less color accuracy. The Q7 in particular is over priced.



This just means that the TV can't output DTS sound from a DTS source. This shouldn't be a big deal for most people, unless they connect their UHD or BD player directly to the TV and then pass sound to an AVR or soundbar. Almost all streaming services will provide a Dolby soundtrack option.
Thanks for the responses. So it sounds like I should stick with FALD models so perhaps restrict my search to the Sony and the Vizio P and PQ.
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Thanks for the responses. So it sounds like I should stick with FALD models so perhaps restrict my search to the Sony and the Vizio P and PQ.
Just to chime in, I bought the Sony 900F 75 inch last week. I only want to deal with Best Buy as they have the easiest way to exchange TV's in my opinion. After I got it I realized that the Vizio was $1k less (technically $1100 after taxes). So I've set up an exchange to have the P75 dropped off next Sunday and my 900F hauled away. I seriously can't imagine the Sony being better than the Vizio by that much. Makes no sense...and even if something's wrong...fine, I'll call Best Buy and have them give me another TV.
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Hi! I have a hard choice between these TVs. Price of Samsung 3,300, price Sony 4,400. I've read your comments and I consider you an authority. I watch from a distance of 4.5 m, use TV as a PC monitor, sometimes play on PS4, watch 1080p movies, now I have a sharp 70 le 360 x, full hd. Know about the beautiful lighting of Samsung and Sony have about the carpet, also know that Sony has no local dimming and the Samsung it formal. The size of the TV is less than 80 inches is not considered, the budget 4,500 dollars. Does it make sense to overpay for the size of a Sony in my case? I am from Russia, waiting for your opinion, thank you
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Well I just pulled the trigger on a 2018 P75-F1 and am now wondering if I should cancel/return the order and wait for the 2019 Vizio panels announced at CES today. I imagine they will be a lot more $$$ but if the quality upgrade it so significant, it may be worth it?
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Hi! I have a hard choice between these TVs. Price of Samsung 3,300, price Sony 4,400. I've read your comments and I consider you an authority. I watch from a distance of 4.5 m, use TV as a PC monitor, sometimes play on PS4, watch 1080p movies, now I have a sharp 70 le 360 x, full hd. Know about the beautiful lighting of Samsung and Sony have about the carpet, also know that Sony has no local dimming and the Samsung it formal. The size of the TV is less than 80 inches is not considered, the budget 4,500 dollars. Does it make sense to overpay for the size of a Sony in my case? I am from Russia, waiting for your opinion, thank you
sorry, don't have the model Sony XBR85X900F Samsung 82 NU8000
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Hi! I have a hard choice between these TVs. Price of Samsung 3,300, price Sony 4,400. I've read your comments and I consider you an authority. I watch from a distance of 4.5 m, use TV as a PC monitor, sometimes play on PS4, watch 1080p movies, now I have a sharp 70 le 360 x, full hd. Know about the beautiful lighting of Samsung and Sony have about the carpet, also know that Sony has no local dimming and the Samsung it formal. The size of the TV is less than 80 inches is not considered, the budget 4,500 dollars. Does it make sense to overpay for the size of a Sony in my case? I am from Russia, waiting for your opinion, thank you
sorry, don't have the model Sony XBR85X850F Samsung 82 NU8000
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I am against the ads and tracking in the Samsung TV's in principle, and my gut reaction is to not buy a Samsung due to that alone. I cannot see what the ads are like in the stores, since they do not show up in demo mode. Do people who have these Samsung sets at home even notice the ads?

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Hey everyone

I'm currently shopping for a 4K 70 inch TV ... But I'm on a budget. Around 1300$CAD (1000$US) is pretty much the most I'd like to put. I've been shopping a lot at refurbished places.

My question is - should I bother trying to get a TV with Dolby Vision at that price range? Dolby Vision sure looks better than HDR10 but ... the color gamuts of the TVs I can afford won't probably show that, right?

Otherwise, best deal I've seen lately is a refurbished Vizio E70-E3 for 900$CAD (680$US)
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for my use case any thoughts on these 65" tvs:

Sony x900f
vizio pq65-f1
vizio p65-f1
samsung q7f
samsung q6f
samsung nu8000

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Looking to upgrade my parent’s 55” TCL 4 series that l got for them a few weeks ago. Wall mounted it Xmas day and obviously thought to myself “too small”. They don’t really care about PQ or size, but when l go over l would like to watch a 65”. This seems like the best bang for the buck. What do you guys think at this price? Also looking at the ‘18 Vizio M65 for $750, brighter and FALD but no WCG.

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Looking to upgrade my parent’s 55” TCL 4 series that l got for them a few weeks ago. Wall mounted it Xmas day and obviously thought to myself “too small”. They don’t really care about PQ or size, but when l go over l would like to watch a 65”. This seems like the best bang for the buck. What do you guys think at this price? Also looking at the ‘18 Vizio M65 for $750, brighter and FALD but no WCG.

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If you need something right away (ie. return window on the 55 inch TCL), I'd look at the TCL 65 inch S513 for $599 at Costco. If you can wait, the 2019 TCLs were announced to be shipping soon and you might want to consider the 65R615. The 2019s have more dimming zones than the 2018s.

EDIT: The increase in zones for 2019 is only for the new 75 inch R615. No changes for the 65 inch were announced.

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I am looking to purchase a new TV for my living room, the only content to be played on it will be a 4k FireStick w/Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video and YouTube, 1080p streams via Plex (local network from a server) and gaming on a Nintendo Switch.

1. Budget - Trying to keep it below $800 (closer to $600 would be even better) EDIT: I am planning on waiting another two weeks or so to take advantage of Super Bowl deals as well - keep that in mind for pricing
2. Seating distance - 6-8', mostly direct, but off-angle viewing as well from the kitchen once in a while
3. Size/placement limitations - No limitations, I know a 65" would be recommended, but I would prefer to sacrifice the size for a better display
4. Uses and sources - 4k FireStick (Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, Amazon Video), Nintendo Switch, Plex 1080p streams (in that order, most watched -> least watched)
5. Room lighting - fairly dim, little bit of sunlight from one side

I see a lot of talk about the TCL 55R617, though I know nothing about TCL as a brand and don't see them listed on the charts on rtings, which I tend to use pretty heavily to help my decision. I would LOVE an LG OLED, but I know it's out of my budget. I typically lean towards Samsung, but they don't seem to have much in my price range that has decent reviews/ratings. I did see the Vizio M55-F0 pop-up in my research, but I have never owned a Vizio and always thought of them to be lower quality?

I am open to suggestions, even if it's a brand like Vizio or TCL that I've never owned before, I just want to make sure I get a decent TV that will last me a few years, which is why I have been trying to make sure whatever I get has HDR for future support of that feature. Smart app quality doesn't mean much to me as I will primarily be using my FireStick for content anyway, unless the TV's built-in apps are that much better. I do have Gigabit internet with WiFi AC (1300Mbps 5Ghz, and 450Mbps 2.4Ghz), so buffering and the like won't be an issue.

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I see a lot of talk about the TCL 55R617, though I know nothing about TCL as a brand and don't see them listed on the charts on rtings!
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tc...ries-2018-r617

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http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-size/55-inch
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haha never stops. I just purchased the Sony 65" 900F - Happy with it, however the little person in me is wanting a 75" but don't have the budget for the 75" Sony. Heard of the new TCL coming out in 75" and the Vizio P series that I could probably stretch but I love the Sony upscaling, just looks natural very good pic out of box. What to do? Might need to trade size for the image? I have a return until this Saturday but really trying to decide if I were to get a 75" which one within a decent affordability - Ohh the choices keep it or TCL 75" or Vizio 75"P series? Mostly for HDR and Blu Ray some gaming. Love good black and colors.

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Thank you, I guess I can fully trust rtings reviews then, lol. I'll keep an eye on the R613/615/617 to see if it goes on sale, else, Amazon's current $630 is still a great deal it seems!
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Thank you, I guess I can fully trust rtings reviews then, lol. I'll keep an eye on the R613/615/617 to see if it goes on sale, else, Amazon's current $630 is still a great deal it seems!
The Amazon deal is for the 65 inch S series. It's a good choice for your budget if you want 65 but I believe you were targeting a higher quality 55"? Try to get the 55 R series 2018 model, its been on sale on/off for about $500. You could also consider the 2018 Vizio P55 which sometimes is on sale for $700.
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The Amazon deal is for the 65 inch S series. It's a good choice for your budget if you want 65 but I believe you were targeting a higher quality 55"? Try to get the 55 R series 2018 model, its been on sale on/off for about $500. You could also consider the 2018 Vizio P55 which sometimes is on sale for $700.
PlanetAVS what would you recommend for Dolby Vision mainly 4K movies in the 75 inch range that won’t break the bank yet decent quality. Right now I have 65 inch Sony 900f, however longing for bigger screen and 75 inch 900f too pricey. Wonder if the new TCL might be a good alternative. Any recommendations?

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PlanetAVS what would you recommend for Dolby Vision mainly 4K movies in the 75 inch range that won’t break the bank yet decent quality. Right now I have 65 inch Sony 900f, however longing for bigger screen and 75 inch 900f too pricey. Wonder if the new TCL might be a good alternative. Any recommendations?

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I would consider the following in order of price (low to high):
  • TCL R617
  • Vizio P75 (2018)
  • Vizio P Quantum (2019)
  • Vizio P Quantum X (2019)

Based on the 2018 lineup, the TCL is excellent but you might get a panel with bad DSE. The TCL R series usually don't get discounted deeply. It's also a 60 Hz panel but gets good motion reviews. The 2019 75 inch is expected to ship fairly soon if you need something quickly.

The 2018 Vizio P75 is 120Hz and is fairly comparable. The 2019 Vizios sound very interesting but pricing is unknown.
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I would consider the following in order of price (low to high):
  • TCL R617
  • Vizio P75 (2018)
  • Vizio P Quantum (2019)
  • Vizio P Quantum X (2019)

Based on the 2018 lineup, the TCL is excellent but you might get a panel with bad DSE. The TCL R series usually don't get discounted deeply. It's also a 60 Hz panel but gets good motion reviews. The 2019 75 inch is expected to ship fairly soon if you need something quickly.

The 2018 Vizio P75 is 120Hz and is fairly comparable. The 2019 Vizios sound very interesting but pricing is unknown.
Thanks - I looked at Best Buy and it states the new TCL 2019 75 inch as having 120 Hz. Not sure if that is native and a 10 bit panel? Yes I bought the Sony 900F over holidays and my last day to return it is on Saturday and was thinking of a 75". I guess my timing is off and the only updated TV I see is possibly the 75 inch TCL but don't know enough at this time about it. Could wait till beginning Feb but my family will be disappointed that there's no TV for a month or so to wait for new models. Thx appreciate feedback.

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The clip above from The Haunting of Hill House on the Q7FN seems like more than just an Edge-Lit issue. The entire panel there is lighting up, rather than just vertical bands of blooming where the subtitles are.
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The clip above from The Haunting of Hill House on the Q7FN seems like more than just an Edge-Lit issue. The entire panel there is lighting up, rather than just vertical bands of blooming where the subtitles are.
Samsung's infamous Global dimming. watch the other youtube video.

Some say it can be turned off via PC mode but it locks up several settings. Some say it doesn't completely go away.

I should've gotten one a few weeks back to test.
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My 15-year old 56” Samsung DLP (HL-P5685W) died I need to replace it. 75” – 82” would work. 85” would probably be too large.

80% of use would be watching TV using Directv Now. The room has 2 skylights so it gets bright in the summer (rains the rest of the year in Oregon). 5% gaming and 15% Netflix & Amazon Prime.

Viewing distance is ~10’.

Will be connected to my Denon X3400H. I also have Apple TV (not 4K model), an older Xbox One and SmartThings.

I’ve kind of narrowed it down to the following 75” sets:
Samsung Q7FN
Samsung Q8FN
Sony X900F

I started thinking about the 82” Samsung models, but read they have ghosting issues and I like to watch lots of live sports.

I also read that Samsung sets now have a native Directv Now app, but it is flawed.

Would any of the above mentioned sets alleviate the need to purchase an Apple TV 4K?

If I pick up a Sammy, do I still need my external SmartThings hub?

The Q7FN has the “one connect” box, but I’m not sure what benefit (if any) it is, because I don’t intend to wall mount. Looking at the Bell'O CW342 stand for now. Sorry I can't link, because I don't have 5 posts yet. I did have an old AVS account and used this forum to decide on my old DLP set 15 years ago.

I have access to Samsung student/educator/alumni pricing. Currently the Q7FN is $2,600 and Q8FN is $3,300. I can wait until Super Bowl to purchase. I intend to purchase a Square Trade Warranty from Costco.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
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