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post #3151 of 3170 Old 12-09-2018, 12:45 PM
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I stand corrected, thanks. At least I was able purchase a UDP 203 in the nick of time.
I see they're $1700. on amazon today. Is that what they cost before the stopping production was announced, or did the cost skyrocket upon the 'stop production' news?
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I see they're $1700. on amazon today. Is that what they cost before the stopping production was announced, or did the cost skyrocket upon the 'stop production' news?
The latter, I think they were $549($599?) when available from OPPO.
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The latter, I think they were $549($599?) when available from OPPO.
Wow! I remember looking at them online in 2017 but didn't recall price. Thanks.
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The MSRP of the 203 was $549 from Oppo.

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-...3-Support.aspx

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The latter, I think they were $549($599?) when available from OPPO.
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The MSRP of the 203 was $549 from Oppo.

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-...3-Support.aspx
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Well that's a bummer. I was intending on upgrading to Oppo w/next player purchased. Were the financial reasons ever disclosed to the public? Was there CFO or corporate mis-management? Or did they simply not sell enough products to justify continued production? Or what?
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Read the beginning of the thread!
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Well that's a bummer. I was intending on upgrading to Oppo w/next player purchased. Were the financial reasons ever disclosed to the public? Was there CFO or corporate mis-management? Or did they simply not sell enough products to justify continued production? Or what?
You might search the OPPO threads for particulars, but I don't believe it was any of that. The company at least externally operated well, no mismanagement was exposed and as you can see, there is more than enough demand for their products.

I'd be willing to bet that if they reopened their doors for a six month stint at their old prices, with their old product catalog, there'd be a run on the place.

In my opinion, this was a strategic decision at their parent OPPO level (which is not the same as OPPO digital) and dictated at those levels.

The fact that they are doing a soft landing for their customers in support, parts for repair and general gentlemanliness speaks to both their committment to their customers and to their professionalism.

To tell you the truth, if I hadn't bought one of their last players available from them, I might be saving to get one used, since my other OPPO players have performed so well.
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I'd be willing to bet that if they reopened their doors for a six month stint at their old prices, with their old product catalog, there'd be a run on the place.
And a LOT of angry people who overpaid in the rush to get one from a scalper.

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You might search the OPPO threads for particulars, but I don't believe it was any of that. The company at least externally operated well, no mismanagement was exposed and as you can see, there is more than enough demand for their products.

I'd be willing to bet that if they reopened their doors for a six month stint at their old prices, with their old product catalog, there'd be a run on the place.

In my opinion, this was a strategic decision at their parent OPPO level (which is not the same as OPPO digital) and dictated at those levels.

The fact that they are doing a soft landing for their customers in support, parts for repair and general gentlemanliness speaks to both their committment to their customers and to their professionalism.

To tell you the truth, if I hadn't bought one of their last players available from them, I might be saving to get one used, since my other OPPO players have performed so well.
Thanks very much, hernanu. Really appreciate your reply and perspective!
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When streaming blows disc PQ out the water and we can get Atmos or DTS-X on the regular from all equipment and all outlets I’ll put the discs and machines out to pasture. I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
They told me Laser Disk and VHS was the future, I didn't burn my 16MM Bell&Howell either.
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They told me Laser Disk and VHS was the future, I didn't burn my 16MM Bell&Howell either.
Those were all the future when they told you that. But soon the next future ... and the next, etc ... appeared. Just when I learned how to use the splicing block, our B&H 16mm went extinct!

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Hard to believe it was 2 short years ago that all of us were waiting eagerly for our 203s to arrive at our doorsteps. If you would have told me that a year and half later we would be here I would have never believed it.
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Those were all the future when they told you that. But soon the next future ... and the next, etc ... appeared. Just when I learned how to use the splicing block, our B&H 16mm went extinct!
The future is infinite. In 60-75 years everything we see/use will be obsolete, including some parts of human form, if not all. That said, I'm restoring my vintage turntable and cassette deck to be buried in a time capsule to 99 years date so that my great-great-great grand-kids can at least get to see and maybe perhaps enjoy them.
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When streaming blows disc PQ out the water and we can get Atmos or DTS-X on the regular from all equipment and all outlets I’ll put the discs and machines out to pasture. I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
I don't see this ever happening. In other words are streaming providers going to make all the DVDs and Blu-rays in ones collection available? I highly doubt that so why would anyone put their discs and players "out to pasture"?

Same applies even more so for music discs. There's no way IMO that any streaming provider will have all my CDs, Blu-ray Audio, DVD-As and SACDs available. So I will not be putting any of my players "out to pasture" any time soon.

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I don't see this ever happening. [snip]

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Agreed. If it did happen, the internet providers would all put data limits on our services, jacking up the costs to pay for the bandwidth being used.

As soon as a 4K service is available that provides the Dolby Atmos and DTS:X with the same audio and visual quality that I can achieve with the same physical disc, then I will think about it.

My worse fear is after purchasing a movie via a service, all of a sudden the movie is no longer available to view, due to licensing agreements.

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Streaming may be able to fill the bill sooner than you think, at least for some markets. I have available google fiber. For 70 bucks a month. I could get 1000 Mbps download speed and they say no down load limit or throttling. They say you can download an HD movie in 40 secs. If it weren't for the fact I'm moving this year I'd boot my cable company out so fast their head would spin, but now it's just a waste of time.

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Streaming may be able to fill the bill sooner than you think, at least for some markets. I have available google fiber. For 70 bucks a month. I could get 1000 Mbps download speed and they say no down load limit or throttling. They say you can download an HD movie in 40 secs. If it weren't for the fact I'm moving this year I'd boot my cable company out so fast their head would spin, but now it's just a waste of time.
When you say "fill the bill" do you mean a vast library of movies and music to choose from streaming providers? To me $70 a month to have the ability to download movies is way past the amount I would pay.
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When you say "fill the bill" do you mean a vast library of movies and music to choose from streaming providers? To me $70 a month to have the ability to download movies is way past the amount I would pay.
I meant streaming from providers of course. The download speed was just a reference to the speed of google fiber at 1000 Mbps

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The HDR10+ Beta has been released.

And as they promised, even as they move toward permanent closure, they have posted their beta release of the promised HDR10+ support, here: http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-...-64-1221B.aspx
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