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samsung uhd-m8500 (No Price Talk)

I see we have the 9500 topic going so i want to know if any1 has experience with the m8500. I have 1 coming next week. The differences i see between the 9500 and the 8500 are 2 hdmi out to 1, and the 9500 has a screen on the front. I have a 65ks8500 to hook it to. I really interested in how the auto optimizer works on samsungs tvs. oh and the 8500 was just barely more than 50% of the 9500.

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Samsung - UBD- K8500, M8500 and M9500

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I am trying to get some opinions on these players. The M8500 and the K8500 are a the same price right now. The only difference I see is the dual HDMI ports which I do not need. That is the same with the M9500, I see it has the dual ports and hi-res audio. Anyone have the M8500? Haven't seen much written up about it? Do they all support 4K ultra HD upscaling?
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No 3D on the M8500 or the M9500, the K8500 has 3D.
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There is a m9500 owners thread set up with lots of info on it
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Ubd-m8500/za

Getting this and want to try to get this thread active! Should get tomorrow!

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Getting this and want to try to get this thread active! Should get tomorrow!
So far works good, Netflix and Amazon works with HDR. Vudu only HDX as it's only DV and not HDR. Player is responsive enough not to slow and video seems to be just fine with 4k titles, but need more time to test things. Interface is okay, but not great, can overlook these things as the price is good for what it does.

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Not good at playing MKV files and won't support DTS only Dolby sound. Will not show subtitles either. Did not get it for this so not important for me.

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So far works good, Netflix and Amazon works with HDR. Vudu only HDX as it's only DV and not HDR. Player is responsive enough not to slow and video seems to be just fine with 4k titles, but need more time to test things. Interface is okay, but not great, can overlook these things as the price is good for what it does.
Performance and basic feature set on this player is similar to that of the M9500, which I also own. The INFO banner (which can be summoned by pressing the TOOLS button) provides detailed information on the disc being played. Per a discussion I had with the chief engineer at Samsung, VUDU is finalizing testing and certification to provide UHD/HDR10 support on their platform for the M9500 and the M8500.
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Not good at playing MKV files and won't support DTS only Dolby sound. Will not show subtitles either. Did not get it for this so not important for me.
I've had no trouble whatsoever playing back MKVs of Blu-Ray movie backups which are stored on my Synology NAS using the onboard DLNA function. However, only PCM, DTS and Dolby Digital audio works (you can switch audio types by pressing the OK button and navigating to the icon at the lower right). Also, depending on the original file type some titles might be rendered unplayable by the unit. As you have already discovered, Samsung does not currently "officially" support playback of DOLBY TRUEHD, DTS-HD MA, or ATMOS audio from sources other than discs and the onboard apps.

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I've had no trouble whatsoever playing back MKVs of Blu-Ray movie backups which are stored on my Synology NAS using the onboard DLNA function. However, only PCM, DTS and Dolby Digital audio works (you can switch audio types by pressing the OK button and navigating to the icon at the lower right). Also, depending on the original file type some titles might be rendered unplayable by the unit. As you have already discovered, Samsung does not currently "officially" support playback of DOLBY TRUEHD, DTS-HD MA, or ATMOS audio from sources other than discs and the onboard apps.
I was comparing it to my Oppo 103d that plays MKV files as good as playing from discs. I admit the lower price of the M8500 is a big surprise it does fair very well and I only got this as a back up for my Oppo 203 which is 3 times the money.

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I'm likely going to pick up the M8500 today. Does it have the same updated remote as the M9500?
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I'm likely going to pick up the M8500 today. Does it have the same updated remote as the M9500?
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There is a m9500 owners thread set up with lots of info on it
I don't think that's accurate. There's a K8500 thread but no M8500 thread outside of the announcement.

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I don't think that's accurate. There's a K8500 thread but no M8500 thread outside of the announcement.

OK. I'm confused. This is the M8500 owner's thread. M9500 thread is here.


http://afterconvert.com/forum/149-bl...lk-please.html


A little busier than this one. The thread starter didn't put as much info into it as Rudy did.

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UHD/DOLBY ATMOS SUPPORT ON VUDU

Please be advised that the latest firmware update (v.1106) readies the UHD-M8500 for UHD/Dolby Atmos content from Vudu. All that is needed now is for Vudu to "flip the switch".

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VUDU UHD/ATMOS NOW LIVE!

Please be sure you're running the latest firmware revision (v.1106).

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will this player recognize 4k blu ray or 1080p bluray without me having to choose some option every time?

i just got it and hooking it up tomorrow
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will this player recognize 4k blu ray or 1080p bluray without me having to choose some option every time?

i just got it and hooking it up tomorrow
Yes, it will.
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my first 4k tv a TCL, and my first 4k player samsung m8500.
can you guys tell me if i have the samsung setup correctly in the settings?
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my first 4k tv a TCL, and my first 4k player samsung m8500.
can you guys tell me if i have the samsung setup correctly in the settings?
These settings are good, but I would recommend the following settings:

RESOLUTION: 2160P
HDMI COLOR FORMAT: AUTO
PCM DOWNSAMPLING: OFF

On the TCL, make sure the HDMI input that the M8500's signal is fed into has been configured to accept 2160p at 60Hz and HDR. Check the TV's manual for instructions on how to do so. I have my Denon set to DIRECT on the input which the BDP is connected, but you can try one of the preset soundfields listed in the manual.

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These settings are good, but I would recommend the following settings:

RESOLUTION: 2160P
HDMI COLOR FORMAT: AUTO
PCM DOWNSAMPLING: OFF

On the TCL, make sure the HDMI input that the M8500's signal is fed into has been configured to accept 2160p at 60Hz and HDR. Check the TV's manual for instructions on how to do so. I have my Denon set to DIRECT on the input which the BDP is connected, but you can try one of the preset soundfields listed in the manual.
ok ill try those picture settings,. i believe i have pcm on because the icon is lit green.

i have denon 3300 and set the bluray player to bitstream uncompressed i believe. when i watch a movie it does say dts, etc. so i think the sound is set up correctly.
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I just purchased a UBD-M8500, there does not seem to be thread for it, but I believe my questions are generic enough for this thread. I am not using UHD yet, my Onkyo AVR does not have HDMI inputs, only digital optical and coax. I see in the manual that the PCM format for the optical output only outputs 2.1, and there is no Auto setting. I am little unsure how the Bitstream options work. The AVR is able to decode both DD and DTS, I assumed if I set Bitstream (Unprocessed) it should decode it to however the disc feature is encoded, but how does it know what to decode it to? In the short time I have had the unit, there has been one occasion where the AVR only seemed to output PCM rather than the DTS the disc feature should have been, I confirmed the setting in the player was Bitstream (Unprocessed). Is that most likely a glitch in the AVR or the player?

If I happen to enable audio commentary from the disc menu, I would not actually receive it in that mode, is that correct?

I believe my AVR predates Dolby True HD, but I have always been able to get DD 5.1 even though the disc states it is formatted for Dolby TrueHD. Is that a function of the player being smart enough to know not to transmit it or the receiver just ignoring the extra info?

If I set the format to Bitstream (Re-encoded Dolby D), but the disc feature audio is advertised as DTS, does that mean the player actually converts the DTS to Dolby Digital on the fly?
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I just purchased a UBD-M8500, there does not seem to be thread for it, but I believe my questions are generic enough for this thread. I am not using UHD yet, my Onkyo AVR does not have HDMI inputs, only digital optical and coax. I see in the manual that the PCM format for the optical output only outputs 2.1, and there is no Auto setting. I am little unsure how the Bitstream options work. The AVR is able to decode both DD and DTS, I assumed if I set Bitstream (Unprocessed) it should decode it to however the disc feature is encoded, but how does it know what to decode it to? In the short time I have had the unit, there has been one occasion where the AVR only seemed to output PCM rather than the DTS the disc feature should have been, I confirmed the setting in the player was Bitstream (Unprocessed). Is that most likely a glitch in the AVR or the player?

If I happen to enable audio commentary from the disc menu, I would not actually receive it in that mode, is that correct?

I believe my AVR predates Dolby True HD, but I have always been able to get DD 5.1 even though the disc states it is formatted for Dolby TrueHD. Is that a function of the player being smart enough to know not to transmit it or the receiver just ignoring the extra info?

If I set the format to Bitstream (Re-encoded Dolby D), but the disc feature audio is advertised as DTS, does that mean the player actually converts the DTS to Dolby Digital on the fly?
This thread is indeed for the Samsung UBD-M8500, which is the player you indicate you purchased. You should connect the player directly to your display using a HIGH SPEED HDMI cable, and to your AVR using a digital optical cable. Set the VIDEO output on the player to AUTO, and the SOUND output on the player to BITSTREAM (RE-ENCODED DOLBY DIGITAL); the player will send a video signal that is compatible with your display and it will convert whatever audio codec is on the disc to multichannel Dolby Digital on the fly. Setting the player up this way will allow you to benefit from the improved video of UHD discs (whether you have a UHD TV or not), while enjoying multichannel audio on your AVR.
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Audio Output Format Settings Confusion

I am still struggling trying to understand how the Audio Output Format settings work. What is the relationship between Audio Output Format and Audio Output Format (Optical). Did something change recently? Last week the two settings appeared independent, this week it appears that Audio Output Format has some effect on the Optical setting.

Even though I do not have a 4K TV I bought the Ultra HD/BluRay combo of Wonderwoman and played the UltraHD version as an experiment. According to my receiver, the feature audio was in Dolby Prologic II! I went to settings... Audio was set to Auto and Optical was set to Bitstream (Unprocessed). Last week that seemed to allow my receiver to play DTS or Dolby, which ever the disc was formatted for. Now I could not change the Optical setting, I could select something else, but it would stay in Bitstream (Unprocessed). I then changed the Audio to Bitstream (Re-encode Dolby D) and the Optical automatically switched to that as well and was grayed out so I could not select it all.

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I set Audio Output Format to Bitstream (Unprocessed), which automatically set Audio Output Format (Optical) to Bitstream (Unprocessed). When I played Wonderwoman Ultra HD it played Dolby Digital. When I inserted Pacific Rim and Fantastic Beasts Blu Ray it played DTS, and when I played an older Blu Ray in Dolby Digital, it played Dolby Digital.

To use the Optical Digital Audio ouput and play the format the disc is encoded in, seems to require setting the Audio Format to Bitstream (Unprocessed), which automatically forces the Optical setting to that. Despite a whole page describing how the modes and formats work together, the manual is not clear how the two settings work together, and at this point I am not sure why there is even a separate Optical Digital Audio Format Setting. It is either set automatically or ignored.

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Browsing through a lot of these UHD player threads, not a lot of concise information is presented up front without wading through millions of pages of posts. If someone could provide a summary on the first page of features and/or a cheat sheet of formats for streaming/USB playback that would help out potential future buyers.

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The content information display that appears at the top of the screen is annoying and useless as is, any way to change how it behaves. When ever you pause and resume or change chapters, it is generally not needed and is displayed for WAY too long blocking a fair part of the screen. Yet, when I am troubleshooting or interested in the information, it does not stay long enough! Is there way to disable it by default, or change how long it appears, or when selected from the tools menu, make stay longer or until dismissed?
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If anyone has one of the Samsung UHD Video Packs HDDs can test to see if it still works with the M8500. Tests have confimed that the UHD packs works with the predecessor K8500 but not the M9000. Thanks.

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The Video Pack does not work with the M8500.

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