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"The HDMI input of the UDP-203 does accept 4K resolution on release, but not HDR.
Oppo has said they hope to have HDR compatibility on the HDMI input in a future update.
To confirm, when I try pushing my Roku Premier+ through the -203, I do get 4K but not HDR."

I am a bit uncertain about setup now.

Presently, with the UDP-103D I am sending Comcast and the Roku Ultra to the Denon 6200W and then thru the OPPO for upscaling to 4K. I use the LG OLED E65 Netflix app and sometimes the Amazon app (I think I found that the Roku Ultra remembers the Amazon HDR settings).

I was planning on a plug and play switch. Am I correct that I should be connecting the Roku HDMI directly from the Denon to an HDMI input on the LG E65? Will I then have to switch upscaling on the LGE65 on every time when I am using the ROKU for upscaling?

I presently have a Samsung Ultra Blu Ray player and have to use a separate optical cable for sound. Hoping that is not the case with the new OPPO.
Umm, good luck with all of that. If you want HDR, you will likely have to bypass the UDP-203 until they hopefully get HDR
working on the HDMI input.
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In the market for a new Blu-ray player. Given the Cost for the new Oppo versus the standard Oppo Blu-ray players, is there value in investing now on the 203 or just get the 103.
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So glad SDR BT2020 was included, I have a stack of UHD discs waiting on this puppy.
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That's what Oppo referred to it as. It works great for me on store bought UHD BDs to my Denon AVR and
Epson projection system, but perhaps it may not work perfectly with all setups (?).
I can only report what I have experienced, and it works good for me.
This is great news for those of us with PJ's...HDR not quite ready for prime time...need more lumens or HDR contrast adjustment capability on PJ's. So, @Smarty-pants didn't know you were a beta tester for this guy! Can you confirm then that this is confirmation that no HD Fury Integral is needed for at least Epson 5040/6040 owners for SDR 2020 capability? Thanks!

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The Cinavia message is part of the enforcement, probably predefined. OPPO has no choice in this matter.

Currently the HDMI input is not checked for Cinavia, nor is the HDMI ARC. This could change if the powers that be think it is a problem.

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Fair enough, I realize if Cinavia is now required for non disc content, Oppo must comply. I just didn't realize that rule existed.

Looks like I need to find a streaming box that can play my movie collection properly, to augment the Oppo.
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One more question for the beta testers. I am not planning to upgrade my 1080p JVC projector to 4K yet, but I am wondering if I can connect the Oppo UDP-203 to my Marantz AV8802A and take advantage of the Dolby Atmos soundtracks on the UHD discs while passing 2K video signals to my JVC projector. Has anyone tried this? Thanks for your help.
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One more question for the beta testers. I am not planning to upgrade my 1080p JVC projector to 4K yet, but I am wondering if I can connect the Oppo UDP-203 to my Marantz AV8802A and take advantage of the Dolby Atmos soundtracks on the UHD discs while passing 2K video signals to my JVC projector. Has anyone tried this? Thanks for your help.
There are two HDMI outputs. Send Main HDMI to your projector and Audio HDMI to the Marantz.

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To any of the beta testers: Can you please confirm whether the analog outs (particularly the analog sub out) are are simultaneously active with the HDMI outs?
thanks.
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Does the HDMI input on the back pass bitstream or is it pcm like the 103?
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There are two HDMI outputs. Send Main HDMI to your projector and Audio HDMI to the Marantz.

If you are sticking with 1080p video, you can run single HDMI through the Marantz, but the dual cabling will make it easier to update to that 4K projector later.
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Thanks Bob. Great news since this will allow me to enjoy Atmos without having to upgrade my projector right away.
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In the market for a new Blu-ray player. Given the Cost for the new Oppo versus the standard Oppo Blu-ray players, is there value in investing now on the 203 or just get the 103.
Well vs a standard BDP-103, the 203 does so much more for certain features, with UHD playback and scaling being the primary one.
The 203 is only $50 more and to me that's a no brainer. You also aren't going to find a new 103 from authorized dealer,
so you are essentially looking at a used or unopened one with no warranty.
Even if you aren't into 4K yet, the 203 kinda keeps you set up for the future. I'd definitely go for the 203.
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How's the 1080p-to-4K upscaling when using blu-rays?
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To any of the beta testers: Can you please confirm whether the analog outs (particularly the analog sub out) are are simultaneously active with the HDMI outs?
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Yes, that has been true of all OPPO players.

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I think it's pretty clear from their press release that there will be no built-in streaming apps. Ever. If you want streaming you'll have to do it through an external device.

"In order to provide a premium user experience with quick start-up times and fast response, the UDP-203 is designed with a purist approach in mind for disc and file playback, and so it does not carry internet video and music streaming apps. Instead, an HDMI 2.0 input port that supports UHD resolution is available for users to connect an external streaming device. This approach affords users the flexibility to choose from a wide range of streaming devices and easily upgrade as streaming technologies evolve, while still taking advantage of the UDP-203’s audio and video processing capabilities."
While this looks like a viable solution in terms of feeding the OPPO 4k Netflix (or other streaming) content, it's unfortunate that there's only one HDMI input on the 203. I currently connect my STB into my 103 to take advantage of it's superior scaling/de-interlacing. Since they're unofficially designating the only input available for a streaming device, it means we can't connecting anything else to the player.

The reason this is important to me is that I utilize the analog LFE out on my 103 to connect to my Buttkicker, so I have to feed content through the OPPO if I want the Buttkicker to be engaged.

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This is great news for those of us with PJ's...HDR not quite ready for prime time...need more lumens or HDR contrast adjustment capability on PJ's. So, @Smarty-pants didn't know you were a beta tester for this guy! Can you confirm then that this is confirmation that no HD Fury Integral is needed for at least Epson 5040/6040 owners for SDR 2020 capability? Thanks!

BTW: The Oppo site is up now...my order just went through.
Confirmed! The UDP-203 works great for sending 4k/bt.2020/SDR to my 5040.
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Does the HDMI input on the back pass bitstream or is it pcm like the 103?
Bitstream.

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To any of the beta testers: Can you please confirm whether the analog outs (particularly the analog sub out) are are simultaneously active with the HDMI outs?
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Yes. All the outputs are live simultaneously. Keep in mind that Volume in the player will not change the volume going out on the HDMI.
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How's the 1080p-to-4K upscaling when using blu-rays?
It looks very similar to the 103 to me, and both look similar to my LG OLED's upscaling. So much so that I haven't spent much time squinting at it, so others may have more to say.

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What file/MKV playback will not bitstream Dolby Atmos, (DTSX)? That is unfortunate if that is the case and another ding for me. *Grumble.
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For your reference needs: OPPO UDP-203 Settings Checklist.

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Well vs a standard BDP-103, the 203 does so much more for certain features, with UHD playback and scaling being the primary one.
The 203 is only $50 more and to me that's a no brainer. You also aren't going to find a new 103 from authorized dealer,
so you are essentially looking at a used or unopened one with no warranty.
Even if you aren't into 4K yet, the 203 kinda keeps you set up for the future. I'd definitely go for the 203.
I suspect it depends on your use case. If you don't have a 4k display and/or you want to stream movies from your own media server, access Netflix or Vudu or Youtube from the same box, or make use of technology like Darbee, the 103(D) might serve you better.
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The 'extended info' option is very interesting to me, glad they added that. First one to post a screenshot of said info gets a cookie! (From Canada too so it'll stay cool on the trip south.)


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Yes, that has been true of all OPPO players.

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Thanks, wmmclain, that's an imprtant feature for me as I want to run my Crowson Transducers independently. This was also true of all Panasonic BD Players with analog outs, but the UB900 eliminated this feature to my great disappointment.
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Have any beta testers had the opportunity to validate how the HDMI input and subsequent processing work with compressed (DirecTV) signals? I'd love some improvement in processing for my 55E6P.

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how fast is the disc loading? is it noticeably faster than other players?
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Bill,

Thanks for that, I see under the video settings it has "strip metadata" under HDR along with auto, on and off. Only auto, on and off are in the online manual as far as I can see. So this setting will allow the BT.2020 profile to be passed. I could not find any reference to this in the manual at all but happy this option will be available.
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It looks very similar to the 103 to me, and both look similar to my LG OLED's upscaling. So much so that I haven't spent much time squinting at it, so others may have more to say.

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Well, this is my first Oppo, so I have no idea what the upscaling looks like on the 103 . I'm currently using just a PS3 with my JVC rs-400. I take it that there would be a significant improvement? And more importantly, had you noticed any artifacts (especially with lots of foliage in the frame)? How do you usually prefer to watch blu-rays: at native 1080p or with upscaling enabled?
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Well, this is my first Oppo, so I have no idea what the upscaling looks like on the 103 . I'm currently using just a PS3 with my JVC rs-400. I take it that there would be a significant improvement? And more importantly, had you noticed any artifacts (especially with lots of foliage in the frame)? How do you usually prefer to watch blu-rays: at native 1080p or with upscaling enabled?
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I suspect it depends on your use case. If you don't have a 4k display and/or you want to stream movies from your own media server, access Netflix or Vudu or Youtube from the same box, or make use of technology like Darbee, the 103(D) might serve you better.
Good points. You will have to have a source for streaming apps and if Darbee is a must have feature, then those are additional costs.
I still have a Darbee version Oppo player in my setup that I use when I want to use Darbee.
So yeah, it really does depend on your specific needs, while also considering if and when you really want/need UHD.
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Rack Mounts

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RE: rack mounts

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I am interested in the UDP-203. I have the Oppo BDP103 (and -83, 80, and DVD players) in a Middle Atlantic Rack. Will the BDP103 custom rack mount work for the UDP-203? -- ie are they the same dimensions?
If not can Oppo send a shell of UDP-203 for sizing to MA at http://www.middleatlantic.com/resources/rsh-lookup.aspx
Looks like it would work.

BDP-103
Dimensions: 16.8 x 12.2 x 3.1 inches (430mm x 311mm x 79mm)

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Dimensions: 16.9 x 12.2 x 3.1 inches (430mm x 311mm x 79mm)

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The dimensions of the player should be the same, so a rack mount solution for the BDP-103 should work with the UDP-203.
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