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post #41431 of 41442 Old 12-10-2018, 06:24 AM
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Still rocking the Oppo 83SE for 8 something years now, though many times the blu rays don't load perfectly---get that dreaded wild motor noise searching for it's place once the disc is in the player.

Most of the time it eventually finds it's place, though sometimes I have to eject and try again---and it seems to always load in the end.

To be fair, it's pretty much done that here and there from day one. But reading of loader issues here has worried me a bit. Though not sure if those are exactly related to my sometimes-issues.

In the eventual possibility that my 83SE takes a dive, what could take it's place? Note that I specifically got the 'SE' at the time for the stereo analog out performance (CD's), so whatever blu ray player replaces the SE should be on that level or higher.

Having a peculiar issue with my 83SE.


It does not recognise Bluray Discs when I load them 95% of the time but plays discs once recognised which is rare and mostly happens when I have fired up the player after a long resting period(cold player). I tried something today that is really peculiar and worked 100% of the time. If I lift up the back portion of the player so that it is at a 45 to 60 degree angle as soon a BR Disc is inserted it always reads and recognises the disc but I have to hold the player at that angle until the top menu appears. If I set the player back down to a flat position before the disc is recognised or sometimes before the top menu appears the dreaded motor noise starts and fails to recognise the disc. This does not work if I raise the front portion of the player to keep it at an angle.

What could be the issue and how can I resolve this?
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Having a peculiar issue with my 83SE.


It does not recognise Bluray Discs when I load them 95% of the time but plays discs once recognised which is rare and mostly happens when I have fired up the player after a long resting period(cold player). I tried something today that is really peculiar and worked 100% of the time. If I lift up the back portion of the player so that it is at a 45 to 60 degree angle as soon a BR Disc is inserted it always reads and recognises the disc but I have to hold the player at that angle until the top menu appears. If I set the player back down to a flat position before the disc is recognised or sometimes before the top menu appears the dreaded motor noise starts and fails to recognise the disc. This does not work if I raise the front portion of the player to keep it at an angle.

What could be the issue and how can I resolve this?
The first step is always to manually clean the lasers with a damp Q-tip. If that doesn't help contact Oppo support. I think they still have drive replacements for the flat rate repair fee.
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The first step is always to manually clean the lasers with a damp Q-tip. If that doesn't help contact Oppo support. I think they still have drive replacements for the flat rate repair fee.

Thanks for your input. I cleaned the lens but no change effected. Emailed Oppo and as usual an impressive prompt reply suggesting that there is a balance issue with the spinning disk therefore the Bluray disk is being read always when player is placed at an angle. I think it has to do with the white magnetic plastic cap that attaches to the disk spindle when a disc is inserted.

I have no issues with DVD playback.
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Did they offer to fix it?

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Did they offer to fix it?

Yes they did. Out of warranty service charge $99. but I think I will wait till the player completely fails to read Discs.

I noticed that the player makes the grinding/machine gun noise ONLY when the Laser pickup is trying to move towards the Disc Spindle while reading Discs. The Laser pickup module moves smoothly when it is moving away from the spindle/centre of Disc->outer edge, with no noise but every time it has to move back to centre it makes the noise because it is unable to do so smoothly. Therefore I guess when I lift up the rear end of the player that facilitates the Laser Pickup to move a little more easily towards the centre at an angle due to gravity and it reads discs without the noise. I saw this with the Top of the Player taken off. Looks like a simple fix for this should be there which I am unaware of.

This noise happens every time the Laser Pickup has to move towards the centre/Disc spindle even when there is no disc eg. when the Player is started up and there is initial movement of the Laser pickup to detect a disc.

I also remember this noise started happening specifically after one of the firmware upgrades a few years ago. I can't remember which. I would like to try out the older firmwares to see if that helps. How do I get my hands on the older firmware files? And is it possible to downgrade the firmware to older versions? I may only need the older loader firmware files to downgrade.
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I'd be concerned that by the time you need it fixed, Oppo will no longer be repairing the players. I learned that the hard way in a different circumstance, I thought I'd wait and got burned. Just my opinion. Or just put that money towards one of the better UHD players out there.

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Yes they did. Out of warranty service charge $99. but I think I will wait till the player completely fails to read Discs.

I noticed that the player makes the grinding/machine gun noise ONLY when the Laser pickup is trying to move towards the Disc Spindle while reading Discs. The Laser pickup module moves smoothly when it is moving away from the spindle/centre of Disc->outer edge, with no noise but every time it has to move back to centre it makes the noise because it is unable to do so smoothly. Therefore I guess when I lift up the rear end of the player that facilitates the Laser Pickup to move a little more easily towards the centre at an angle due to gravity and it reads discs without the noise. I saw this with the Top of the Player taken off. Looks like a simple fix for this should be there which I am unaware of.

This noise happens every time the Laser Pickup has to move towards the centre/Disc spindle even when there is no disc eg. when the Player is started up and there is initial movement of the Laser pickup to detect a disc.

I also remember this noise started happening specifically after one of the firmware upgrades a few years ago. I can't remember which. I would like to try out the older firmwares to see if that helps. How do I get my hands on the older firmware files? And is it possible to downgrade the firmware to older versions? I may only need the older loader firmware files to downgrade.
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I'd be concerned that by the time you need it fixed, Oppo will no longer be repairing the players. I learned that the hard way in a different circumstance, I thought I'd wait and got burned. Just my opinion. Or just put that money towards one of the better UHD players out there.
I'd just get it fixed now. As mentioned, OPPO is going away, maybe not for three years or so, but they will step away eventually.

If you get it fixed now, it goes back to functioning without a problem and you're good for X number of years. If you decide to replace it with a player that does UHD as well as everything that the 83 does (which could be a tall order), you can sell it in one of the online venuels; it has held up surprisingly well pricewise, and could go a ways to letting you buy a new machine.

Either way, getting it fixed improves the situation. Oppo usually turns things around quickly, so you won't be without the player for long.

I have an 83, a 103D and a 203, and am planning to send the 83 (and maybe the 103D) for service just to make sure they are in good shape. I plan on keeping them for a long time.
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Getting a repair isn't really a concern. Oppo will continue to provide repairs and will make a smooth hand-off to a 3rd party service provider when the time comes.
The bigger issue for the 83 is availability of parts. Those loaders are in short supply. The 83 was originally discontinued because the optical unit was no longer being made.
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Getting a repair isn't really a concern. Oppo will continue to provide repairs and will make a smooth hand-off to a 3rd party service provider when the time comes.
The bigger issue for the 83 is availability of parts. Those loaders are in short supply. The 83 was originally discontinued because the optical unit was no longer being made.

I understand the need for failing optical units which I assume is the Laser lens block and the metal mechanism that holds it along with the Disc spindle and the laser guide motor. The Laser and the 2 motors could fail over time but are still available to purchase on some sites.

By Loader do you mean the whole plastic unit along with the tray that houses the Optical unit? There is not much to go wrong with that from regular/normal use, unless one breaks a part of it, except the Tray motor and the rubber belt that can fail over time. But the Tray Motor and Rubber belt both can be replaced and are available.
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I understand the need for failing optical units which I assume is the Laser lens block and the metal mechanism that holds it along with the Disc spindle and the laser guide motor. The Laser and the 2 motors could fail over time but are still available to purchase on some sites.

By Loader do you mean the whole plastic unit along with the tray that houses the Optical unit? There is not much to go wrong with that from regular/normal use, unless one breaks a part of it, except the Tray motor and the rubber belt that can fail over time. But the Tray Motor and Rubber belt both can be replaced and are available.

Not an Oppo unit, but on my parents' Panasonic one evening recently it just stopped playing DVDs. But it'd play Blu-rays just fine. Upon inspection, there are two separate lasers. It would seem the laser perhaps burned out...? Luckily I found an entire new transport assembly for a relatively decent price on eBay so I got that in and swapped the whole thing out.



My point being that there are other things that can fail.

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Spoke with Oppo Customer Care and they guided me with repairing the player and it is working flawlessly now. I had to lubricate the Laser Pickup Stepper Motor and do some adjustment with the loader.

Just needed some advise on one thing cause going thru the whole forum to decide for myself would take a lot of time. which is the better Audio Enhanced player version Upgrade, 105 or 205? I had heard of a lot of issues with the 20x players some time ago.

Thanks.
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